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Unmanned Spaceflight.com _ Exploration Strategy _ Great Mountains of the Solar System
Posted by: RNeuhaus Jun 6 2006, 07:18 PM
The below link shows some greatest mountains pictures from Mars, Moon, Jupiter's moon, and Venus. No great mountains from Mercury.
The giant planets such as Uranus, Neptune and Pluton has no great mountains?
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=724&gid=58
Rodolfo
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Posted by: helvick Jun 6 2006, 07:23 PM
Cool collection but Space.com's interface makes my eyes and brain hurt. Those guys desperately need to get a new cleaner look and feel.
Posted by: DonPMitchell Jun 6 2006, 07:32 PM
Rodolfo
Uranus and Neptune are thought to be "ice giants", right? But if so, I would imagine their strong gravity would make the solid surface very flat. It would be intersting to orbit a synthetic-aperture radar system around one of them someday.
I agree with the comment about space.com's interface. There are a lot of lurid "space science" sites like space.com and centuri dreams, etc. I look at them, but don't consider them very reliable sources of science and fact. They're in the business of drawing in people to click on their google ads.
Posted by: remcook Jun 6 2006, 07:42 PM
I've seen a cassini Radar image of saturn in a presentation by Linda Spilker (still trying to find it somewhere on the web), but it just shows more clouds... deep clouds though
Posted by: volcanopele Jun 6 2006, 07:43 PM
This is a sin against nature: Pele is not a moutain (its next to a moutain, but not on a mountain):
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=723&gid=58
On the same note: what does this have to do with mountains:
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=725&gid=58
I like that they remember that Io has great mountains, but it would have been nice if they did some research and found good shots of mountains, more than just Tohil.
For those interested in Ionian mountains, try:
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03886
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03600
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03527
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02555
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02540
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02527
*http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02526
Posted by: RNeuhaus Jun 6 2006, 07:57 PM
A question for moon specialists, what is the tallest moon, from the surface?
According to the information sources, I have learned that the Moon has great difference between the bottom to the top, it is about 3 km below of the Moon reference radius and about 12-13 km above the reference radius (not sure how exactly but about that).
Rodolfo
Posted by: climber Jun 6 2006, 08:24 PM
Do all of you think that Mount Everest is the higher peak on Earth above sea level ?
You're right BUT the farthest point to Earh Center is not the Everest, it's the Chimborazo (Ecuador) at 6 384.4 km while the Everest is at 6382.3 km
Posted by: DonPMitchell Jun 6 2006, 08:26 PM
You're right BUT the farthest point to Earh Center is not the Everest, it's the Chimborazo (Ecuador) at 6 384.4 km while the Everest is at 6382.3 km
That's a cool fact. Of course they get to cheat at the equator, centrifugal bulge!
Posted by: volcanopele Jun 6 2006, 08:39 PM
According to the information sources, I have learned that the Moon has great difference between the bottom to the top, it is about 3 km below of the Moon reference radius and about 12-13 km above the reference radius (not sure how exactly but about that).
Rodolfo
Boosaule Montes on Io is ~16 km above the surrounding plains.
Posted by: RNeuhaus Jun 6 2006, 09:28 PM
According to the information sources, I have learned that the Moon has great difference between the bottom to the top, it is about 3 km below of the Moon reference radius and about 12-13 km above the reference radius (not sure how exactly but about that).
Rodolfo
I took time to find it out. The following is the needed information:
The deviations from the overall spherical shape of the Moon due to local topography can be substantial. The maximum and minimum variations are approximately +8 km/-9 km with both extremes occurring on the far-side of the Moon (relative to a sphere with a radius of 1737.4 km). The maximum surface elevations occur in the region surrounding the Korolev crater while the minimum elevations occur in the geographically nearby South Pole-Aitken basin. Both are of the far side.
That is about the same size of Earth (Mariana Fosa 10Km and Everest 8.8Km). Then, I think that Moon has a more accidented topographically than the Earth. The Earth topography is more rounded than the Moon by the eolian, and water erosions.
Rodolfo
Posted by: climber Jun 6 2006, 09:51 PM
[quote name='RNeuhaus' date='Jun 6 2006, 11:28 PM' post='57321']
That is about the same size of Earth (Mariana Fosa 10Km and Everest 8Km).
Rodolfo
Rodolfo
See post 7 here above. Everest is NOT the right comparison, isn'it? And you live closer than you think!
Posted by: RNeuhaus Jun 6 2006, 10:01 PM
Hello Climber:
I think I have not expressed exactly. The comparision what I am thinking is about the size between the highest mountain and the lowest fossa. Your post about Everest vs. Chimborazo has surprised me. A very good hint!, So I am thinking that the tallest Peruvian mountain, Huascaran with its 6,749 msnm, very close to the equatorial line, might be third tallest mountain of the world? I have no info on how to measure from the center of Earth to the peak of Huascaran.
Rodolfo
Posted by: climber Jun 6 2006, 11:14 PM
[quote name='RNeuhaus' date='Jun 7 2006, 12:01 AM' post='57332']
Hello Climber:
I think I have not expressed exactly. The comparision what I am thinking is about the size between the highest mountain and the lowest fossa. Your post about Everest vs. Chimborazo has surprised me. A very good hint!, So I am thinking that the tallest Peruvian mountain, Huascaran with its 6,749 msnm, very close to the equatorial line, might be third tallest mountain of the world? I have no info on how to measure from the center of Earth to the peak of Huascaran.
Rodolfo
Hi Rodolfo,
It's not that simple! As an exemple when you get to "South Col" i.e. Camp 4 of the Everest on the Nepal's side, you can choose to climb to the left and go to the Everest or to your right and go to the Lhotse. The 2 summits are a few kms appart and Lhotse is at 8515m so "only" 335 meters less than the Everest.
I don't know either how to calculate, we'd better google this, don't we ?
Posted by: edstrick Jun 7 2006, 08:19 AM
"....Uranus and Neptune are thought to be "ice giants", right? ..."
That's a term that's being used, but I prefer the term "Vapor Giants" as opposed to Gas Giants (Jupiter and Saturn). Though the visible atmospheres of Uranus and Neptune are Hydrogen/Helium rich, the bulk of the "envelope" surrounding a high density core is CH4, NH3 and OH2 (H20). These are all condensable vapors and the visible clouds are presumably methane clouds.
There are no solid surfaces on or within either the gas giants or the vapor giants. Moons and terrestrial planets are made of "geology". The giants are made of "weather"
Posted by: tty Jun 7 2006, 10:33 AM
And where is Hawaii, the highest mountain (more than 10 km) and largest shield volcano on Earth? It is also, presumably, the home of Pele, the volcano goddess.
tty
Posted by: RNeuhaus Jun 7 2006, 03:36 PM
tty: Good, there are many differents ways of comparisions! 
1) The other angle of perspective of comparision: From the bottom of mountain surface to the peak:
The Hawaian volcan: Mauna Loa is considered the "monarch of mountains." It is the largest volcano and the largest single mountain of any kind in the world. It is 97 kilometers (60 miles) long, 48 kilometers (30 miles) wide, and rises about 8,742 meters (28,680 feet) from its base on the sea floor. (They rise an average of 4,572 meters (15,000 feet) to reach sea level from their base on the sea floor with the highest (Mauna Loa) climbing an additional 4,170 meters (13,680 feet) above sea level.):
Then, we have three others comparisions:
2) The distance between the center of Earth and the peak: Chimborazo o Huascaran.
3) The distance from the extremes high and low of the Earth surface (peak and fossa): Everest.
4) The distance between the sea of level and the peak: Everest.
It is incredible about the Volcano Pele from one of the Jupiter's moon: Io.
Pele is one of the largest visible volcanic features on Io and was also the first active volcano discovered on another world. Pele was name after the legendary Hawaiian volcano goddess. The large red ring that is in a heart shape in the Voyager images was formed from sulfur fallout originating from Pele's plume and reaches more than 1,300 kilometers (808 miles) in diameter. Pele's plumes have been observed to reach heights of 400 kilometers.
http://www.solarviews.com/raw/jup/io3.jpg
P.D.Does anyone know what is the distance from the center to Earth to the sea level at the latitud: S 9 06. where Huascaran mountain is located.
That's a term that's being used, but I prefer the term "Vapor Giants" as opposed to Gas Giants (Jupiter and Saturn). Though the visible atmospheres of Uranus and Neptune are Hydrogen/Helium rich, the bulk of the "envelope" surrounding a high density core is CH4, NH3 and OH2 (H20). These are all condensable vapors and the visible clouds are presumably methane clouds.
There are no solid surfaces on or within either the gas giants or the vapor giants. Moons and terrestrial planets are made of "geology". The giants are made of "weather"
Interesting comments. These Gas Giants are like a very smooth balls. Abscense of mountains and hence they can roll as bowling ball!
Rodolfo
Posted by: ljk4-1 Jun 8 2006, 01:32 AM
This Web page:
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect19/Sect19_12.html
Has an artist's rendition of various mountains together for size comparison:
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect19/olimpys.jpg
And how big the Tharsis region is compared to the United States:
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect19/sred_S10.jpg
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