Juno perijove 9, October 24, 2017, near solar conjunction |
Juno perijove 9, October 24, 2017, near solar conjunction |
Dec 4 2017, 09:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Amazing planet and excellent work from Sean and Gerald. I'm gradually getting better at figuring which belts/zones we are seeing when we're at somewhat lower latitudes. Post #31 helps with this.
-------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Dec 12 2017, 03:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
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Dec 12 2017, 04:25 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Dec 12 2017, 04:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 11-December 12 From: The home of Corby Crater (Corby-England) Member No.: 6783 |
Walnut? or birds eye Maple perhaps, nah, too dark, which brings me onto that!!! couch....
The slightly fuzzy, wrapped canvas isn't too bad though. |
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Dec 12 2017, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Haha... thanks Doug, I love coffee coming out of my nose!
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Dec 14 2017, 09:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 14-December 17 Member No.: 8308 |
Hey everybody, first time posting to the site after learning of it's existence the other day. I've been getting back into space-oriented side projects lately and wanted to add Juno image processing to the list. I haven't dug too far into the "proper" methods of processing these images yet but did a quick test last night regardless. I was really surprised to find that compiling the color separations into one image seem to leave the result pretty far feeling from true color.
I'll be looking at more methods to bring that to a better accuracy but for now I wanted to share what I came up with, on the left is what I got just from compiling the red green and blue channels and on the right was my first run at altering it to try and bring out some of the detail. I didn't do any drastic colors, I was mostly trying to sort out how to bring out the clarity of the features from the North Pole image I used. I would love any feedback you could provide and plan to post more as I continue to refine my process, and will probably also experiment with some other styles just for fun. |
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Dec 15 2017, 01:20 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 13-November 17 Member No.: 8284 |
Hi Jay (and everyone). I was in your position about a month ago. I wrote an automated processing pipeline to process the raw images for a class, though it still needs some improvement. Most of the info I needed I found either in technical papers or on this forum.
Did you decompand the image data? I found that helped a huge amount, though the color channels still need calibrating afterwards. If so, you probably just need to weight the color channels. I found several in these forums, the one I ended up using was one Gerald suggested in one of his papers: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=42174 QUOTE Linear radiometric weights applied to decompanded raw data are 0.82 for red, 1.0 for green, and 2.17 for blue. This may induce a slightly greenish cast. Actually, I was thinking maybe we need a thread specifically for how to process junocam images? I spent a long time reading through all the other threads and little bits of info were scattered all over the place. It would be nice to have them all grouped together and we can all help improve it. Kevin |
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Dec 15 2017, 12:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
In order to remove most of the greenish cast, I've been using 0.88 for red since PJ-06 for enhanced images. But this might undergo another refinement later.
In general, I'm not sure, whether there is a fixed "how to". It depends on your purpose. I've written almost 10 MB of code for various purposes of JunoCam image processing and related tasks, almost everything from scratch. Might be the code could be shortened to 5 MB with sufficient effort in "refactoring", but I've still a long list of TBDs after four years of development. I might double the code next year in order to cover some of the items on the (ambitious) list. I'm interested in developing and understanding all technical detail about camera calibration, processing, data reduction, evaluation, and beyond, independent of possibly existing partial solutions, but that's probably not the recommended way for people, who just like to create beautiful images, nor for professionals who need to reduce specific project costs and risks. The semantics of the code overlaps with that of NAIF/SPICE and ISIS3. So, if you are happy with "the standard", you might consider to base your work on these libraries and tool sets. The JunoCam extension for ISIS3 is work in progress since quite a while, and might be released next year, for those who are used to work with ISIS3 in a UNIX environment. Regarding threads, I guess, that Candy would be happy to learn about possible extensions of the missionjuno website. One of her primary objectives is "Science in a Fishbowl", as far as that's possible without running into science publication or privacy issues. "Evaluating JunoCam images with ISIS3" might become one of the considered topics. |
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Dec 15 2017, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
The JunoCam extension for ISIS3 is work in progress since quite a while... There is a beta version of ISIS3 that supports Junocam. I was told not to distribute it "outside the team" but since everyone here is on the Junocam team I'm not sure what that means. If you're interested PM me with details about which platform you want it for -- it's available for the 64-bit version of Mac OSX 10.11 and various 64-bit flavors of Linux. It's worth noting that ISIS3 has a very very steep learning curve so this is not something you should ask for casually -- you might start by downloading the production version of ISIS3 to see if you can figure out how to use it on a simpler case. As for a unified thread about Junocam processing -- I'm not sure there's a unified thread about anything on UMSF, but it's a good idea in theory. The thread over in http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=8353 is an example, perhaps overly specific to the standard SPICE formalism. Some amateurs have documented their workflows in fair detail, some have not (which is fine) -- I am always curious to see how people are doing what they are doing. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Dec 15 2017, 05:56 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 13-November 17 Member No.: 8284 |
The code I developed was for a computational photography course, so for a variety of reasons I used only related methods. So I only did 2d alignment methods to register the framelets, which turned out OK but obviously was not perfect. It seemed like I would just be able to find the homographies for perfect framelet alignment but I wasn't able to get acceptable/consistent results doing it. I was hoping to be able to open source the code for people to play around with but I need to check guidelines related to the class first.
The Juno Software Interface Specification document says they perform a white balancing such that a white surface has a value of 10000. (For planetary targets). I did not attempt to implement this. I was thinking that a thread that could summarize information about the spacecraft and specifically the instruments (including junocam) would be useful. It could encompass "official" pipelines as well as unofficial ones by giving enough data to help people implement it themselves or modify existing code. For example, originally I wanted to try to visualize data from JIRAM or MWR and merge them with junocam imagery. I have a list of links to a variety of documents and posts that could be helpful to start. Also, were the flat fields ever released? I found mention of them in the calibration report but could never actually find them. |
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Dec 15 2017, 07:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 14-December 17 Member No.: 8308 |
Thank you all for sharing the information, I'll be sure to read through the provided links when I get home tonight. I did not decompand the image, to be honest I'm a bit like Alice tumbling into the rabbit hole, not having realized how deep the work with these images goes, but I love it. I focus mainly on 3D work but want to be able to process and include real imagery for future projects (and its also a blast) so I'm starting at the ground floor with processing actual spacecraft imagery.
That said I haven't had as much fun with Photoshop in a long time as I have with my first runs with Perijove 9. I can see though Gerald why many people base their work off yours as a starting point. Really loving the community and work this place provides, so thank you all for that. |
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Dec 15 2017, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
There is a beta version of ISIS3 that supports Junocam. I was told not to distribute it "outside the team" but since everyone here is on the Junocam team I'm not sure what that means. ... I've access to the beta, in principle, but no system it is running on. A member of USGS considered providing a VM. This would simplify installation "infinitely". But I've loads of other tasks. So, I may not be the first one to test the ISIS3 extension for JunoCam. @Jay, you can really learn lots of interesting things from JunoCam image processing, once you are ready to dive into this adventure. |
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Dec 16 2017, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
I have a list of links to a variety of documents and posts that could be helpful to start. If you want to post that or start a new thread it seems completely reasonable. It could go in http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=8143 or http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=8353 -- the latter is misplaced IMHO because "Image Processing Techniques" is intended to be non-mission-specific. QUOTE Also, were the flat fields ever released? I found mention of them in the calibration report but could never actually find them. As I've said previously, the flat field is more complex than just putting up an image. Our ground flat fields consist of readouts of the entire active part of the sensor, only 128-line pieces of which per filter are sent down in flight. And then with TDI active the image moves across the sensor and blurs out the blemishes. All of this could be documented in a self-contained fashion, but I just haven't had the time. I've attached a normalized 8-bit version of the flat (IIRC this appears as a figure in the Junocam paper) and a binary blemish map of the RGB part of the sensor that gets read out (the latter is what we are currently using in our processing flow to repair blemishes, but it's fairly quick-and-dirty.) -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Dec 20 2017, 10:58 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
A bit late (since the PJ10 images are now available) but here are my versions of PJ9_081 ("northern coverage"). Approximately true color/contrast versions and then enhanced versions:
And some metadata: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-10-24T17:32:07.116 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 9 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017297_09C00081_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 10107.7 km SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = 41.8417 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 220.0255 TITLE = Northern coverage Resolution at nadir: ~6.8 km/pixel |
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Dec 20 2017, 11:26 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
There is an area in one of the enhanced PJ9_081 images in my previous post that I find especially interesting:
Here I get the impression that we are seeing thin haze or tenuous and largely transparent high altitude clouds (at several locations indicated by arrows) overlying a deeper and darker layer of clouds. Of course this could also be something different. |
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