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High-Res DEMs from single HiRISE images, First results of new "Shape from Shading" algorithm
Nirgal
post Jan 16 2010, 03:30 PM
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Hi all,

Here the long overdue continuation of the "Alien Landscapes" series. This time based on 3D
DEMs generated with "Shape from Shading" from single HiRISE images.
Enjoy smile.gif

Click on Images for larger version.

Detail views from PSP_002172_1410 (large gully system)





Detail view of Gullies from PSP_001376_1675





Detail of gully system in PSP_002022_1455



Dune Views from PSP_004339_1890





Detail from PSP_001834_1605





Here is some background info on the making of the images:

"Shape from Shading" (SFS) i.e. the possibility to extract shape information from a single image has always been a fascinating topic for me.
Now I found the time to implement a prototype for a new SFS algorithm based on some ideas that I've been thinking about for a long time.
The problem with existing SFS approaches (see here for a survey is that they either tend to over-smooth the details (due to the regularization constraint) or suffer from excessive noise in the high-frequency components of the reconstructed surface. Another problem is the large demand on CPU ressources which would make them very challenging to apply to large scale input data, such as HiRISE orbiter images.

So for a long time I was rather sceptical as to the potential of SFS and it was my impression that Methods based on multiple images (stereo) must be far superior to single-image SFS.

However, after a long time of experimenting, combining existing approaches with some new ideas, I got the following quite promising first results that I'd like to share:

All of the images were generated from a single HiRISE image (no depth information was used from stereo or laser altimeter data).
Also, no texturing or additional coloring/shading was applied when rendering the surface.
Every detail visible is real 3D down to the pixel-level...
For rendering I used a very simple model based on lambertian reflection with gouraud shading.

The resolution of the images is still moderate: that is downsampled details crops in the order of 0.5-1 Megapixels.
However, despite the heavy math machinery that drives the core of the algoritm (several systems of equations with millions of unknowns)
the processing time is still moderate (about 15 Minutes per med-res image, using about 2 Gigs main mem) such that the application to full-res HiRISE images should be possible smile.gif

The following image shows an example to illustrate the general principle (click to enlarge).


On the left hand side the 2D input image (simple noisy JPEG from the Web with unknwon light source direction). On the right hand side shows the recovered 3D surface re-lighted under a different light source direction.
Note that one problem of the current implementation of the algorithm is it's vulnerability to notable distortions in the low frequency components (i.e. large scale variations) of the generated surface. However I'm confident that this can be overcome by an improved version or by adding the large-scale depth information from stereo-based DEMs or altimeter data (MOLA) where available.
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mcaplinger
post Jan 20 2010, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Jan 20 2010, 02:09 AM) *
Anyone tried something like it?

On the Magellan project this was known as "radarclinometry" (do a google search.) It didn't work all that well IIRC.

More recent applications are described in http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1071.pdf


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post Jan 20 2010, 02:42 PM
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*cough* Titan..? (Edit - sorry, I didn't spot Mcaplinger's post before posting.)

Also, I wonder if hidden craters like Scamander might show up at Gusev?


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post Jan 20 2010, 07:30 PM
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The software wouldn't work on radar images without some rewriting, because foreshortening of topography works oppositely between radar and visible imaging. In radar, high-elevation things are closer to the spacecraft than low-elevation things, so their echoes are received earlier, so mountain peaks are apparently displaced toward the spacecraft rather than away from it as they are with visible images.

Mcaplinger: Although I think you're right that radarclinometry wasn't as effective as photoclinometry on, say, Viking or LO images, I think in many cases it was better than the quality of the Magellan altimetric data. I worked really closely with that altimetric data and over any place where there was any significant topography its quality was really poor, with lots of blatantly incorrect elevations, great big holes represented by one altimetric footprint in the middle of ridges and the like. Apparently Peter Ford's group developed an improved version of the global topographic map internally, correcting some of these issues, but as far as I know it has never been published.


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post Jan 20 2010, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 20 2010, 11:30 AM) *
Although I think you're right that radarclinometry wasn't as effective as photoclinometry on, say, Viking or LO images, I think in many cases it was better than the quality of the Magellan altimetric data.

When I was working on Magellan we were using radar stereogrammetry (see http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1253.pdf for some recent work.) Stereogrammetry is always preferred to photoclinometry if stereo is available.


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post Jan 20 2010, 08:38 PM
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Bernhard, just an idea...
Because this 3D HI-Res DEM rendere is a huge work of yours that is to be acknowledged, what if you share your software to UMSF members versus a financial participation (or a donation) ? smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2010, 08:43 PM
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Thanks for sharing your insights into the photoclinometry from radar images. It's one of those things that seems obvious at first but is quite the opposite. At least I learned something!


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post Jan 20 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (vikingmars @ Jan 20 2010, 09:38 PM) *
Bernhard, just an idea...
Because this 3D HI-Res DEM rendere is a huge work of yours that is to be acknowledged, what if you share your software to UMSF members versus a financial participation (or a donation) ? smile.gif


Thank you all so much for all the nice words and suggestions !

At this time, the project is unfortunately not yet ready to be officially released in any publicly useable way for several reasons. First, it is still in a very early stage of development and I have just begun to explore the possibilities and there are a lot of ideas for improvement that I would like to try out, many bugs to be fixed etc.
Also, there are technical and license related obstacles : for example I am using a large collection of self written and third-party C/C++ APIs and libraries that I developed and collected over the past 15 years.
While some of them are open source, there are also commercial or closed source libraries that would have to be completely re-written first. (this task alone would be a several-years project I'm afraid)
And most importantly, there is no such thing like a GUI or comfortable user interface. The whole project is more like an experimenting platform consisting of a complex & ugly command line interface, a cryptic shell language and about 2000 tuning parameters ...
Also, I am doing this all in my spare time only, as a means of recreation and relaxation ...
And for me it is simply much more fun to explore and implement interesting algorithms without taking care to write clean and robust user interfaces, doing customer support or the like (this is what I have to do in my profession as software developer all the time wink.gif

Finally I view my software projects mainly as tools, i.e. the means for creating atmospheric images and it is those images that are the real "publishable end product" of the whole process. The algorithms and software are just the "painters brush and easel" or the photographer's camera so to speak.

So at the very least I will continue to publish those images on a regular basis ... maybe I even find the time to setup a Web Gallery or Blog for that purpose. smile.gif







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post Jan 21 2010, 12:56 AM
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As should already be obvious I'm very interested in this so there are some things I'm curious about. From the examples posted it looks as if something like this might revolutionize the quality and resolution of my stereo derived DEMs where the low frequencey stuff is already reasonably accurate. I have already figured out how I would combine stereo DEMs and SFS DEMs.

QUOTE (Nirgal @ Jan 20 2010, 09:30 PM) *
Also, there are technical and license related obstacles : for example I am using a large collection of self written and third-party C/C++ APIs and libraries that I developed and collected over the past 15 years.
While some of them are open source, there are also commercial or closed source libraries that would have to be completely re-written first. (this task alone would be a several-years project I'm afraid)

Is this (commercial/closed source libraries) a problem because it's explicitly forbidden to distribute software based on them or is the problem licence costs or stuff like that? Vikingmars' idea (donations) is interesting and the reason I ask. There's nothing that says the software must be freeware if you make it available one day (and obviously that wouldn't work at all if library licence costs are an issue).

QUOTE (Nirgal @ Jan 20 2010, 09:30 PM) *
And most importantly, there is no such thing like a GUI or comfortable user interface. The whole project is more like an experimenting platform consisting of a complex & ugly command line interface, a cryptic shell language and about 2000 tuning parameters ...

How important this is depends on the 'type' of users. Almost all of my software is command line utilities, including the stereo software - doing a nice GUI is a waste of precious time ;-). For lots of users this might be a problem though.

QUOTE (Nirgal @ Jan 20 2010, 09:30 PM) *
Also, I am doing this all in my spare time only, as a means of recreation and relaxation ...

Now this is something familiar (and lack of time is too ;-)).

I should add that despite the questions/comments above I'm not surprised you are not interested in immediately releasing this. My stereo software is in a similar state as far is this is concerned - it works but there are some bugs and quirks I know of. For example it currently works only for images from framing cameras - using pushbroom source images would probably result in distorted DEMs (I haven't tried it though).
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post Jan 21 2010, 10:07 PM
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I'm wondering if you (Bernhard) can run your software on the picture included here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2010/pdf/2638.pdf from Phil's post regarding Oppy traverse.
Seing some relief and visualizing what will be seen once at the "hell of a view" point, in another 2 kms, will surely be very much appreciated here.
Let us know.
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post Jan 22 2010, 12:32 PM
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It can't be done on that image, it would have to be on the original CTX or HiRISE images.

But of course, seeing these great results for the Columbia Hills or Endeavour crater would be very much appreciated!

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post Jan 22 2010, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 22 2010, 01:32 PM) *
But of course, seeing these great results for the Columbia Hills or Endeavour crater would be very much appreciated!

Phil


I have been thinking about that, too. Do you have the HiRISE/CTX observation IDs for the best/highest resolution images of this areas ?
(I could not find them in the mentioned paper)
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post Jan 22 2010, 03:59 PM
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Two for the columbia hills are listed within this DTM
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/dtm/dtm.php?ID=PSP_001513_1655
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post Jan 23 2010, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 22 2010, 04:59 PM) *
Two for the columbia hills are listed within this DTM
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/dtm/dtm.php?ID=PSP_001513_1655


Ah, thanks. Here is a quick try with my single-image-SFS-DEM at a 3D zoom into the Columbia-Hills HiRISE image linked above:

2D version (at maximum HiRISE resolution)
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Generated 3D version (with approx. 3 millions of shaded polygons)

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Note that the above image is for visualization only. There may be distortions in the map caused by albedo differences (due to dust coverage patterns, for example ) that the single-image algorithm can not resolve.

The original recently published HiRISE DTMs of which I also rendered a qick visualisation (over a larger area)

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are much more accurate with respect to the mid and large scale height variations.

Still, for visualization purposes I like the high-resolution detail, almost photographic look of the single-image based DEMs
(It's a lot of fun to be able to "wander-into" the landscape from a single 2D image only smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2010, 10:08 PM
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Nirgal, I can't find your original thread so I'll add on here. I have a request. Can you work your magic on these features. They are located just inside Endeavour crater and are a possible destination for Opportunity. Contour maps seem to bypass them yet they look as if they have some relief:

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=16180
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QUOTE (ngunn @ Mar 1 2010, 11:08 PM) *
Nirgal, I can't find your original thread so I'll add on here. I have a request. Can you work your magic on these features. They are located just inside Endeavour crater and are a possible destination for Opportunity. Contour maps seem to bypass them yet they look as if they have some relief:

Interesting. I will see what can be done with these (although from first glance there seems to be large albedo variations in the terrain)
Do you have the original HiRISE observation ID for the image ? (will be useful for obtaining the viewing parameters needed to optimize the 3D reconstruction process)
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