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Q & A With Steve Squyres, Coming in September
djellison
post Sep 4 2005, 06:40 PM
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Well - just got home.

It was a superb weekend - brief overview....

Met Nico ( Nix ) at Cambridge Station at about 1500 on Friday. First of all we parked in the Station car park, I walked into the station and couldnt find him. I went back to the car, got my UMSF badge, back into the station and Bingo - he comes over and says Hi smile.gif

Made a total hash of the Cambridge 1 way system but got to Fitzwilliam Halls - where we were staying for the weekend - settled in, found a nearby restaurent and enjoyed nice pasta!

Then - walked to the Institute of Astronomy - and a slight change of schedule. Unfortunately, Ron Greeley's has had family issues w.r.t. Katrina, and thus is still in the US. He emailed his talk on MGS and MODY to Prof. Jan-Peter Muller who was actually due to give his MEX talk on Friday - but did an excellent job doing Ron's instead.

Then, after the talk the conference organisers opened up two nearby observatories - one including a 12" Refractor ( the Northumberland instrument - famous for NOT discovering Neptune, but it's thought that it should have done smile.gif ) - various feint fuzzies were looked at thru this and a 7" refractor next door.

We retired to the kitchen of our accomodation for tea and muffins - Nico very kindly gave me an ENORMOUS print of a Bonneville pan ( it really it beautiful, and it may well live on our Dining room wall ) as a thanks for introducing him to the long, dark, spiral of dispair that is MER image stitching smile.gif

Helen retired ( very wisely ) to bed and Nico and I compared MER imaging notes till 2am smile.gif

Sat - the big day - breakfast at 8am - and a little minibus to the Cavendish Laboratory. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_Laboratory ) Whilst waiting for the first talk, we had a look around and infact saw the very cathode tube with which J J Thompson discovered the electron!!

I'll skip the amateur observational talks - although they all contained astonishing imaging - and show that actually, observations of Jupiter by amaters with scopes as small as 9" are doing genuine science about Jovian storms (is there a relation between oval aspect ratio and their speed - YOU BET YOUR ASS THERE IS...sorry - you had to be there - the chap who gave that talk was...how can I put this...VERY american!!)

Carolyn Porco's talk was, quite obviously, superb. Excellent imagery, some great movies of the shephard moons - many 'ooohs' and 'ahhhs' at some ring movies. Nothing that one could consider 'new science' - except some temperature values for southern Enceladus - the tiger stripes appear to be about 10K higher than the neigbouring terrain. I put my foot in it asking about the spokes - and they are currently not visible ( as we all know ) but they are considered to be a potential feature that will re-appear perhaps late next year as the solar angle increases.

John Zarnecki's Huygens talk was superb - some superb slides that I will post in a more verbose review at a later date - all fantastic stuff. I spotted a double spike in the echo-reflection that I asked about during questions "Well spotted" said John...but it was actually an error in their interpretation of the data and isnt real. A good job that publishing in Science takes so long smile.gif

I spent lunch discussing orbital mechanics on a chalk board with Nico in the dining hall at the Cavendish Labs. I didnt say anything at the time, but on reflection, I wonder what scientific breakthru's have happened over coffee on those three blackboards - at arguably one of the greatest laboratorys in the world.

Done with lunch - more observational talks, and then after more tea that was too hot to drink before the next talk started, Prof. Mike A'Hearn - the highlight of THAT talk being a potential identification of the crater from VERY processed high res data - deconvolution of which has recovered all the data ( so he said ) specifically because of the nuences of that specific design of telescope.

And then...of course...Steve's talk. It was without doubt ( and I know I'm going to be biased ) the best of the weekend - even the event organisers agreed - not many pretty pictures in it, but he is without doubt the best speaker I've seen, very funny, informative, and un-waffling. Good science which I'll be writing much of about for my spacedaily article.

We briefly met before his talk, just to confirm that I was recording it - but ONLY for my purposes of writing a review of all the invited speakers for the BAA journal - sorry guys, you cant have a listen - but if you are within travelling distance..ever..of a Steve talk....GO. Dont think about it..just GO. If it's your Grandparents Diamond wedding anniversary...forget it - just see Steve.

And then...the big one. We had to leave the lab to conduct the Q'n'A, but leaving the lab you could see that Steve was excited just to visit the lab as whilst I was enjoying Mike's talk- he'd been up to see Thompson's Cathode Ray tube...we took to a park bench on the park beside the lab for the Q'n'A, for which he was happy to take as long as it took...45 minutes nearly ohmy.gif

Ustrax...I have your Raving Mars picture signed smile.gif - but he hadnt heard of Ultreya - infact they dont have a name for the dune field yet.

I didnt get thru all the questions, but I did get thru a lot - he was SO open and friendly and fun. I have a favorite question in mind, but I'm going to listen back to the Q'n'A before the final decision.

Steve gave us so much time, Nico and I almost totally missed dinner. Helen asked one question which has arisen elsewhere before heading off for dinner... she asked why he refered to the rovers as 'she' - and he confirmed that they do, as they're vessels of exploration just like ships.

Ever since - I've been thinking "I didnt ask him this...I didnt ask him that" - but the Q'n'A itself was as good as I could possibly imagined, Steve more friendly, enthusiastic and willing to answer questions than I could ever imagine...just...wow.

Before the Q'nA I gave him the 7 x 5 and he was clearly genuinely touched - the effort was appreciated.

Got back, amazingly the college kitchen had kept something aside for Nico and I, and then Nico gave up and went to bed, whilst Helen and I were back in the kitchen enjoying a movie by some people who went to Antarctica for an Eclipse. The penguins were better than the eclipse ( clouds ) - but it was a brilliant little video.

Sunday morning - another killer 8am breakfast - and a talk by the Terrestrial Planets head of the French Astro Soc - excellent mars imaging from earth - and Prof Muller gave a cracking talk on MEX - and explained why ESA and MEX imagery is so slow....European Law. There is an excellent website out there that collates Earth based imagery from every asset you can imagine, and he and his team are desperately trying to do the same for Mars...they just need some cash. The will to spread the data is very much there, they really want to spread it about, but European law makes it quite difficult. So I'm going to see what I can do in terms of figuring out how we can make progres in this w.r.t. talking to local politicians.

Then...BACK to the station...and much easier to find was Emily smile.gif No badge required! Found somewhere not too bad for Lunch and spent a couple of hours putting the entire world of planetary exploration to rights - she's as friendly and knowledgeable a person as you could possibly want to meet. We discovered that we've had some similar thoughts regarding the whole Amateur imaging community, and we're going to have a little think about things, see what we can come up with.

Then, broke lots of traffic laws in finding where Emily's staying for DPS, grabbed Nico's stuff from the college, dropped him back at the station and headed for home.

A hell of a weekend, totally shattered, but frankly, one of the best weekends I could possibly have imagined!

Pics ( Nico has embarrasing pictures of me, being eaten by an OHP machine, meeting Steve ), a better write up, and then the MP3 of the Q'n'A....lots of cool stuff this week smile.gif

And THEN - I've got to review Visions of Mars, and Bill Hartmann's book....busy busy busy smile.gif

Doug
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:50 PM
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HA! Doug, been waiting for the write-up all evening smile.gif sounds like space geek heaven... big grins all round for the 'brief' overview

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post Sep 4 2005, 08:22 PM
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Doug:

Sounds like you had a good weekend!

Is there by any chance a UK book-signing tour going on, for That Book?

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post Sep 4 2005, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 4 2005, 08:22 PM)
Doug:

Sounds like you had a good weekend! 

Is there by any chance a UK book-signing tour going on, for That Book?

Bob Shaw
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Another one of those "damn - should have asked Steve....." situations.

I just dont know to be honest. Might be best to check with Hyperion.

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post Sep 5 2005, 01:05 AM
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It was as great as Doug's splendid summary I tell ya!

Doug is as good as it gets IMO as a PR-guy for the Mer-mission, given the talks he's given, is about to do, and in daily socializing, we guys in Belgium need one just like it, and I might just give it a try smile.gif

And of course Steve, I can only confirm what Doug just said, he's one hell of a guy! He's a 'rock-star' -very charismatic, yet very down to earth, err-Mars that is ..and a joy to meet!

I have enjoyed meeting Emily too, very nice person-and I'm about to join the society-for those who haven't- do so, it'll be well invested..
Join' em!

Talking about nice people, Doug and Helen are too in real life! phew... laugh.gif

But I'm off to bed now..I'm tired (though somehow it feels unjustified saying that after realizing ever so good what Steve and his team are sacrificing!)

Nico smile.gif


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post Sep 5 2005, 07:40 AM
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Sounds amazing! Wish I could've been there.

Oh, and

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djellison
post Sep 5 2005, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (SFJCody @ Sep 5 2005, 07:40 AM)
mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3 mp3


It'll take me a day or two - but oh yes, it will be done.

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post Sep 5 2005, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 4 2005, 06:40 PM)
Prof Muller gave a cracking talk on MEX - and explained why ESA and MEX imagery is so slow....European Law.  There is an excellent website out there that collates Earth based imagery from every asset you can imagine, and he and his team are desperately trying to do the same for Mars...they just need some cash.  The will to spread the data is very much there, they really want to spread it about, but European law makes it quite difficult.  So I'm going to see what I can do in terms of figuring out how we can make progres in this w.r.t. talking to local politicians.
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Great report, Doug!
I imagine here you are talking about Google Earth, it would be really amazing to have the same great stuff for Mars! rolleyes.gif
Anyway, I think we probably should make a petition to ESA authorities, in order to show how strong is UE citizens interest in Mars imagery release! Hoping this could partially overcome laws/budget issues...


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post Sep 5 2005, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 5 2005, 08:22 AM)
I imagine here you are talking about Google Earth,


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post Sep 5 2005, 10:45 AM
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Doug...

That must have been quite quite QUITE a weekend!...
I guess we're all waiting for more developments...

I WANT MY SIGNED RAVING MARS!!!
I'll send my adress and you'll have to gave me yours for the deserved delivery of the wine-award...

About Ultreya...They're just hidding the game... laugh.gif


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post Sep 5 2005, 12:33 PM
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My email doesnt seem to be working right now - drop me a PM via the forum Ustrax - and it'll be in the post later smile.gif

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post Sep 5 2005, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 5 2005, 08:52 AM)

OK, completely missed... but it would be great to fly over all Mars surface with a simulator! rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 5 2005, 12:33 PM)
My email doesnt seem to be working right now - drop me a PM via the forum Ustrax - and it'll be in the post later smile.gif

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