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john_s
post Feb 18 2009, 03:47 PM
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post Feb 25 2009, 05:07 AM
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i have been traveling recently and been waiting to see how people felt about the selection. I am really quite pleased to see the level of support shown for the Jupiter selection. It was an extraordinarily difficult choice from the science side, and the disappointment must be great on the other side. NASA has reaffirmed the high importance of Titan/Encleadus so that all is not lost. it will just take a bit longer. In the man time, Cassini can operate for maybe another decade, perhaps more. That is a rich mission and Titan folks will have their hands full for a verrrry long time. Both systems are truly planetary systems in miniature with an incredible diversity of features, bodies, processes and phenomenon. I study the icy satellites and regard them all as fun places to study. so id have been happy with either choice.

I can echo sentiments made by others. We still have many unanswered questions, especially about Europa and Io. Is Europa active??? Seems plausible if not likely but Galileo could not address this issue, period. Period. We dont know. The antenna failure was catastrophic on so many levels, including this one. It is my firm belief that the gains to be made by a return to Jupiter are simply too large and too important. Ive been mapping the satellites for more than 20 years (most of which will be published before the end of the year) and every day i work on these bodies I am reminded that we missed out on so much when Galileo "failed" that i am sometimes driven to tears. the This is certainly true, but it is the amazing diversity of the system and its importance in understanding volcanic and habitable worlds that are the best reason to return.

I am less familiar in detail with the technical issues, but will say that both face significant issues in the short term that we must be sure to address wisely and prudently. The chief of these is the radiation environment of course which can and did upset the Galileo spacecraft on numerous occasions. but it did work and succeed! We just need to start the job and get it done.....

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- john_s   Jupiter flagship selected   Feb 18 2009, 03:47 PM
- - djellison   There will be some happy people, and some disappoi...   Feb 18 2009, 03:59 PM
|- - ustrax   For those, as I, who were looking forward for a TS...   Feb 18 2009, 04:28 PM
|- - centsworth_II   Although I was a "Titan Now" kind of per...   Feb 18 2009, 04:32 PM
|- - john_s   Plume activity on Europa can't be ruled out, t...   Feb 18 2009, 04:51 PM
||- - ustrax   Sorry for the ignorant mode here but I don't k...   Feb 18 2009, 04:59 PM
|||- - SFJCody   Well, I was hoping for Titan, but Ganymede & E...   Feb 18 2009, 05:13 PM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (john_s @ Feb 18 2009, 11:51 AM) Pl...   Feb 18 2009, 05:15 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Feb 18 2009, 04:32...   Feb 18 2009, 04:57 PM
- - ngunn   I'm not upset (or surprised). I always wanted ...   Feb 18 2009, 04:28 PM
- - ngunn   Rui - I always keep an eye on spacEurope - even wh...   Feb 18 2009, 05:22 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 18 2009, 05:22 PM) I...   Feb 18 2009, 05:37 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   I originally preferred TSSM but eventually became ...   Feb 18 2009, 05:41 PM
- - mps   Am I the only one here who preferred EJSM? TSSM is...   Feb 18 2009, 05:57 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (mps @ Feb 19 2009, 04:57 AM) Am I ...   Feb 19 2009, 12:36 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   QUOTE (Stephen @ Feb 18 2009, 04:36 PM) A...   Feb 19 2009, 03:54 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Feb 19 2009, 03...   Feb 19 2009, 06:23 PM
- - Mariner9   I also preffered TSSM, based mostly on the idea th...   Feb 18 2009, 06:18 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Feb 18 2009, 06:18 PM) ...   Feb 18 2009, 07:01 PM
|- - Mariner9   QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 18 2009, 11:01 AM) Tha...   Feb 18 2009, 08:43 PM
- - volcanopele   mps, don't worry, you are not the only one A...   Feb 18 2009, 06:41 PM
- - alphacenturai   Well this is indeed a fascinating news, like long...   Feb 18 2009, 06:42 PM
- - K-P   Great great news! I was also at first a bit pr...   Feb 18 2009, 07:02 PM
- - Paolo   Selection of the Jupiter mission would mean that t...   Feb 18 2009, 07:05 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Paolo @ Feb 18 2009, 02:05 PM) Sel...   Feb 18 2009, 07:39 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Feb 18 2009, 07:39 PM) W...   Feb 18 2009, 09:35 PM
- - Sunspot   2026 arrival?   Feb 18 2009, 07:40 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 18 2009, 08:40 PM) 2...   Feb 18 2009, 07:46 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Ralph, I figure the JS assist opportunities out to...   Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Feb 18 2009, 02:5...   Feb 19 2009, 09:29 PM
- - Juramike   In my perfect world, the Jupiter flagship is earma...   Feb 18 2009, 10:19 PM
- - volcanopele   Jim Green posted a message on the OPF website: htt...   Feb 18 2009, 11:56 PM
- - belleraphon1   I really anticipated that EJSM/JGO would be the ch...   Feb 19 2009, 12:06 AM
- - volcanopele   Since the probe that will be flying by Io has been...   Feb 19 2009, 12:46 AM
|- - tedstryk   It sure seems to me that ESA has made up its mind....   Feb 19 2009, 02:07 AM
- - gpurcell   How did it happen that there was such a gap betwee...   Feb 19 2009, 05:49 PM
- - gpurcell   Was MSL explicitly funded instead of an outer plan...   Feb 19 2009, 08:04 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Feb 19 2009, 08:04 PM) ...   Feb 19 2009, 11:46 PM
|- - tedstryk   I think the term was coined during the early Goldi...   Feb 19 2009, 11:51 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (vjkane @ Feb 19 2009, 07:46 PM) (T...   Feb 20 2009, 12:29 AM
- - Mariner9   Caveat: I'm trying to avoid a political discus...   Feb 19 2009, 09:02 PM
- - NMRguy   Something that I can't figure out is how large...   Feb 19 2009, 09:35 PM
- - Mariner9   You mean when Goldin wasn't calling Cassini ...   Feb 20 2009, 12:18 AM
- - Stu   At the risk of offending Titan-lovers here, I have...   Feb 20 2009, 12:28 AM
|- - belleraphon1   Well said Stu! I had the same thrill from Voya...   Feb 20 2009, 12:55 AM
|- - tedstryk   I agree. With four planet-sized moons, the surfac...   Feb 20 2009, 01:52 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Feb 20 2009, 12:55 ...   Feb 20 2009, 10:29 AM
- - Stu   "sublimating seltzer surface of Callisto...   Feb 20 2009, 01:05 AM
- - belleraphon1   Stu Coming from our resident poet, I am quite fla...   Feb 20 2009, 01:37 AM
- - Stu   Artist's impression Callisto's Spires... ...   Feb 20 2009, 01:44 AM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 19 2009, 08:44 PM) Artis...   Feb 20 2009, 01:53 AM
- - dvandorn   The selection makes sense to me. After all, we...   Feb 20 2009, 03:19 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 4 2009, 05:39 PM
- - Stu   True enough, but sometimes it's just nice to t...   Feb 20 2009, 10:43 AM
- - ngunn   Your quite right Stu. I take no pleasure in being ...   Feb 20 2009, 11:03 AM
- - Stu   Think you meant "You're quite right......   Feb 20 2009, 12:03 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 20 2009, 12:03 PM) Think...   Feb 20 2009, 12:15 PM
- - volcanopele   The topic has veered a bit from the discussion of ...   Feb 21 2009, 12:05 AM
|- - tedstryk   I really look forward to the large color images th...   Feb 22 2009, 03:03 PM
- - DrShank   i have been traveling recently and been waiting to...   Feb 25 2009, 05:07 AM
- - nprev   Not to fan flames, but it also might be wise to co...   Mar 5 2009, 02:34 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 4 2009, 09:34 PM) I...   Mar 5 2009, 07:09 AM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 5 2009, 03:05 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Mar 5 2009, 10...   Mar 5 2009, 04:16 PM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 6 2009, 06:57 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Mar 6 2009, 06...   Mar 6 2009, 07:54 PM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (EccentricAnomaly @ Mar 6 2009, 06...   Mar 6 2009, 09:50 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Well, even if both were equally technologically fe...   Mar 5 2009, 04:04 PM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 6 2009, 07:16 PM
- - stevesliva   Are you suggesting that they need to handle a land...   Mar 5 2009, 08:18 PM
- - marsbug   That would be tame compared to actually landing on...   Mar 5 2009, 09:03 PM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (marsbug @ Mar 5 2009, 04:03 PM) Th...   Mar 5 2009, 09:51 PM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 6 2009, 06:52 PM
- - volcanopele   If anything I thought the press release didn't...   Mar 6 2009, 07:58 PM
- - ngunn   I agree. The press release seems to leave Titan qu...   Mar 6 2009, 09:31 PM
- - ngunn   If it won't fit in the tube just ask it to wal...   Mar 6 2009, 09:54 PM
|- - EccentricAnomaly   **POOF**   Mar 9 2009, 06:24 PM
- - ngunn   I was certainly not mocking anybody there, nor wei...   Mar 9 2009, 06:56 PM
- - imipak   Well now, and I took it to mean I'd missed som...   Mar 9 2009, 07:47 PM
- - nprev   Re remote examination of cryogenic-temp liquids: A...   Mar 9 2009, 09:03 PM
- - djellison   I'm going to draw a line under the 'techni...   Mar 9 2009, 09:44 PM
- - Juramike   I'm going to assume you didn't see the mes...   Mar 9 2009, 09:55 PM
- - Mariner9   I'm a bit concerned about this statement by Lo...   May 19 2009, 06:38 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ May 19 2009, 06:38 PM) ...   May 20 2009, 03:55 AM
- - gpurcell   Interesting language in the House markup: QUOTE T...   Jun 17 2009, 01:03 PM
- - Mariner9   Interesting wording. I wonder what is 'incons...   Jun 17 2009, 05:08 PM
|- - MahFL   Seems to mean "Wow it's expensive.....but...   Jun 17 2009, 05:17 PM
- - vjkane   My reading of the budget plan as presented by the ...   Jun 17 2009, 05:57 PM
- - gpurcell   What does a 2018 launch opportunity provide that a...   Jun 17 2009, 06:51 PM
- - Mariner9   Up until now the only reasons I have read for exte...   Jun 17 2009, 10:52 PM
- - Tom Tamlyn   Bob Pappalardo has a good BBC interview on the Eur...   Mar 8 2010, 06:45 PM
- - Paolo   today on arXiv: Title: EJSM Origins White Document   May 7 2010, 05:13 AM


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