Duck Bay, Victoria arrival point |
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Oct 3 2006, 09:50 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Stu, Are we convinced that the big lump fell from above, or could it be in situ? If the latter, it goes on the shortlist of "deepest exposures" for an ultimate visit.. Well, without getting too technical... I don't have a <chink> <chink> <chink> clue!!! Have to ask one of our areology experts , I'm just a guy with clearly too much time on his hands at the end of a long work day, trying to make pretty pictures with lens flare on ... but if I was to foolishly venture an opinion, I think that this feature seems to be jutting out of the slope rather than lying on it, suggesting your latter possibility might be accurate. If that's true then wow, the wonders we might find over there... But as I said, what do I <chink?> know? Keep going Oppy, lots more to see just up ahead... atta girl... -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2006, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
The faint white ellipse gives our rough location as of sol 957:
(Thanks to Nico for the pan.) I wonder whether they'll park at the large white tasty outcrop in front of us or continue closer to the tip of Verde. The view from here is certainly stunning, but much of Vicky is out of view so it wouldn't seem to be the best spot for a big pan. On the other hand we won't see much more of the far rim from the tip of Verde. |
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Oct 3 2006, 09:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 19-June 04 Member No.: 85 |
Great renderings Indian3000! And thanks for providing the separate left & right images, especially for the sol 952 vertical projection from last week.
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Oct 4 2006, 12:31 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Just in case the <ahem!> herpetomorphic pseudoquadripedal feature is not merely a trick of light and shadow, I would like to point out that CuCO3 has a distinct greenish tint...
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Oct 4 2006, 01:09 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 27-June 04 From: Queensland Australia Member No.: 90 |
Just in case the <ahem!> herpetomorphic pseudoquadripedal feature is not merely a trick of light and shadow, I would like to point out that CuCO3 has a distinct greenish tint... Only the hydrated basic carbonate. - and that can be green or blue /nitpicking mode off |
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Oct 4 2006, 01:55 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Ah...truly stellar fact-checking, Aldebaran... ...I should have added the word "sometimes".
Seriously though, ever since the salty subsurface soil deposits became glaringly evident in Gusev I've wondered if we'd encounter some exposed transition metal ores, which would be strong evidence for widespread subsurface water at some point in the past (or present?) The upper regolith seems oddly un-mixed in some areas in comparison to Earth's, presumably because water on Earth is ubiquitous. The HPF (my suggested euphemism for l*z*rd, lest the nutosphere run wild) may well the first such "fossil" ore outcrop found, but by no means the last; weathering of these materials on Mars must be far slower than on Earth due to the extreme dessication of the environment. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Oct 4 2006, 03:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Finding an economically important mineral on Mars would certainly be an exciting discovery, but let's not forget that there is a reason these color images are called false-color. I know the colors seen on that feature are different than the blues and blue-greens that we commonly see in false-color from both rovers, but the blues and blue-greens normally become some shade of gray when the nearly-true color images become available.
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Oct 4 2006, 03:49 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Point well taken, CR; certainly we're still in the realm of purest speculation right now. However, that sure is a big part of the fun! Hope that they can do a good mini-TES scan of HPF from close range...
The heck of it is with respect to "economically important ores", as you termed them, is that they almost certainly have to be there...infinitely cool if we could find some, still blown away by the meteorite back near Endurance. If they were as accessible as, say, Alaskan or Siberian resources we'd have ten launches a week. My kingdom for a technological revolution in space propulsion (in all domains!) -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Oct 4 2006, 05:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
The heck of it is with respect to "economically important ores", as you termed them, is that they almost certainly have to be there...infinitely cool if we could find some, still blown away by the meteorite back near Endurance. That's the thought that has fascinated me for a long time. We were all born on a planet where previous gatherers/collectors had already picked over the obvious stuff lying on the surface. Imagine being the first intelligent collector to explore another world.
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Oct 4 2006, 05:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
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Oct 4 2006, 07:48 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 24-May 06 From: Aberdeen, Scotland Member No.: 785 |
I hope they don't take Oppy too close to the edge! Look at those blue berries close to the edge at the bottom of this image:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...LJP2394R1M1.JPG It could be like driving on marbles if there is a rock pavement beneath them. Either a slip all the way down or a difficult drive back up. Aberdeenastro |
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Oct 4 2006, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
FYI, 958 is planned as driving sol too.
> I hope they don't take Oppy too close to the edge! Dunno if there is enough time before conjunction but "Beacon's Cape" looks better to take the big panorama and safer too. |
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Oct 4 2006, 09:51 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Look at those blue berries close to the edge at the bottom of this image: Oh no... stop it... I now have an image in my mind of Oppy slipping and sliding and trying desperately to stay on her feet like that mini At-At in "Jedi" when it's trying to walk on logs... Get out of my head!!! I'm sure she'll be fine, they'll take no risks with our brave gal. -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:13 PM
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Chief Assistant Group: Admin Posts: 1409 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Ierapetra, Greece Member No.: 136 |
I don't think so. It looks like James assembled this one from the tracking site thumbnails.
I'm glad to have that preview btw James. I look forward to the official release next Friday.. Nico -------------------- photographer, space imagery enthusiast, proud father and partner, and geek.
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