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What's Up With Hayabusa? (fka Muses-c)
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post Nov 23 2005, 12:11 AM
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I used 'It is quick the ぶ' in a few of my posts just because, after reading so many mangled automatic translations from Google, it became sort of an endearing nickname to me.

It also underscores the need for real humans to be involved in translation. Software just isn't there yet.


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:25 AM
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By the way, I suggested on a previous post that LIPOVITAN D might be the same thing as Red Bull. I was talking to an American friend who works in Osaka today and he said that's exactly what it is, but more concentrated than Red Bull. He says one of those little bottles will keep you up all night. He was amazed to hear that the JAXA blogger drank four bottles in one evening.


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post Nov 23 2005, 04:15 AM
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And I've picked up on those auto-translation phrases, too. I guess that "the I To matte" is Itokawa.

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post Nov 23 2005, 12:03 PM
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According to CNN, Hayabusa DID land:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/11/23/japan.probe.ap/

'Lost' probe lands on asteroid

"Japan's space agency said Wednesday that a space probe had successfully touched down on an asteroid despite an initial announcement of a failed attempt."
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post Nov 23 2005, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (Horsell_Common @ Nov 23 2005, 02:03 PM)
"Japan's space agency said Wednesday that a space probe had successfully touched down on an asteroid despite an initial announcement of a failed attempt."
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Curious, that means there's supposed to be a JAXA announcement dated today saying the same thing. Did anyone have luck finding something of the sort?


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:21 PM
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Yep, however, sampling was not performed.
"The JAXA/ISAS team confirmed this news by analyzing the data downloaded from the spacecraft by yesterday. The impactor was not deployed somehow."
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post Nov 23 2005, 12:30 PM
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Still, that's very good news. At least now we know the spacecraft is capable of landing safely (or safing itself in a safe mode, take your pick tongue.gif), the remaining problem to be solved is the deployment of the impactor. They're not out of the woods yet, but at least they have a confirmation on a landing and probably one thing less to worry about.
The fuel, however, is likely starting to be a very serious issue. I imagine any more heavy maneuvering and Hayabusa'll be running on fumes in no time...


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:58 PM
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News release from JAXA.
http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/j/snews/2005/1123_hayabusa.shtml
but only written in Japanese. ;-p

HAYABUSA(means "falcon") is the first spacecraft that took off from the asteroid in the world.

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post Nov 23 2005, 01:06 PM
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Here is the babelfish translation of the announcement.
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post Nov 23 2005, 01:14 PM
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I've just started to try to unscramble what they're actually saying -- but note that photo clearly showing the target marker sitting on the asteroid's surface!
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post Nov 23 2005, 01:18 PM
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Judging by Graph 4a, it seems considerable bouncing took place before landing.
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post Nov 23 2005, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Nov 23 2005, 10:18 PM)
Judging by Graph 4a, it seems considerable bouncing took place before landing.
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Yes. JAXA wrote in their release HAYABUSA bounced twice.
and after touch down it had stayed there for about 30 minutes.
its posture was not correct, touched the asteroid with its sampler horn and its +X axis side body edge or the edge of its solar panel.

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post Nov 23 2005, 01:55 PM
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Y.M. COLUMN
http://www.planetary.or.jp/en/column/index.html



Reiji Matsumoto = famous comic writer.
Shigeo Nagashima = ex professional Baseball Player,manager.He llike as Babe Ruth in JAPAN.
Sen-ichi Hoshino = a manager of Chunichi Dragons (Proffesional Baseball team).
Sachio Kinugasa = ex professional baseball player of Hiroshima Carp.
Masahiro Kawai = ex professional baseball player of Chunichi Dragons.


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post Nov 23 2005, 02:13 PM
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It looks as though the failure of the firing and sampling was due to the computer not judging that landing had taken place , rather than a hardware problem with the sampling horn and firing mechanism itself.

The obstacle detection sensor judged the descent was unsafe and seems to have tried to initiate emergency take-off. However the attitude of the probe was outside the programmed limits allowed for take off (acceleration), and therefore the probes computer chose to continue with the descent. The result of this was that the landing search function did not operate.

Which sounds a bit more hopeful, in terms of the next (last?) attempt.
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post Nov 23 2005, 02:18 PM
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Mr. Matsuura interviewed professor Matokawa by telephone.

http://smatsu.air-nifty.com/

Before data downloading, I did not think Hayabusa's bounding on it. I agree now that Hayabusa may bound on it, considering the landing speed, 10cm/sec for the escape speed, 15cm/sec of Itokawa.
It seems that Hayabusa's attitude of landing is like that of dog's sitting style, not inclining right and left.
There was high possibility that the dust flew up and reached into the sampling capsule. The door of capsule is designed to be closed by the landing sequence, but it continues to open. The scientists of planet insist to close the door. It will be closed by the command in the time when it can be sent from Japan directly tomorrow.

Hayabusa has several(two?) capsules in it for twice sampling.
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