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Venus Express: One Year in Orbit, Symposium at the 2007 EGU General Assembly
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post Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
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Forwarding an email that was sent out today by Dmitri Titov, Venus Express PI. Cross reference with this UMSF thread.

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Dear Colleagues,

the General Assembly of the European Geophysical Union (EGU) will be held on April 15-20, 2007 in Vienna, Austria. The Symposium PS 2.1 "Venus Express: one year in orbit", included in the science Programme, will be focused on presentation and discussion of the results obtained during the first year of the orbital mission. Please find the description of the Symposium at the end of the e-mail and visit the EGU Web site: http://meetings.copernicus.org/egu2007/ for more details about the Assembly.

We would like to encourage you to take part in the Symposium and to submit contributed abstracts. Please note that the deadline for abstracts submission is January 15, 2007.

Best regards

Dima Titov and Hakan Svedhem,
The Conveners
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On April 11, 2006 Venus Express-the first European satellite at Venus- was inserted in orbit around the planet and began collecting data. The results of the first year of observations will be presented at the Symposium. The Programme will consist of solicited talks focused on the Venus Express observations and contributed presentations of the preliminary data analysis. The contributions related to the physics of Venus atmosphere, its plasma environment and the surface and based on the analysis of the data from Venus Express and earlier missions, theoretical studies and numerical modelling are highly welcome. Perspectives of the future Venus exploration will be discussed.

Convener : D. Titov (Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Germany) Co-convener : H. Svedhem (ESA/ESTEC, The Netherlands)
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post Jan 4 2007, 08:47 PM
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Oh - we all know that ESA is just utterly utterly crap out outreach. Just look at the efforts of people like Alan Stern, Steve Squyres, Marc Rayman, the HiBlog guys. Taking the time to fill us in - giving the tax payer a true sense of what these missions are about, what they're doing, why they're doing it etc etc. Now show me a single European PI or Co-I or infact just about anyone doing an ounce of that.

Yes - the Cassini team, outside of Ciclops and perhaps Radar is lacking, MSSS are dragging their feet with MARCI and CTX - does MCS even work, - but those are blots on an otherwise very good and indeed improving record. ESA's record is just a big blot from top to bottom.

Difficulty is that because ESA is the managerial equiv. of distributed computing - there being no answerable central outreach or educational body involved, no obligation (and absolutely NO money) for each instrument team to do any of this...and worse still there isn't actually anywhere to go to complain about it. There isn't a PAO to moan at, or even a Politician to go to. I have emailed every single email address relating to HRSC that I can find regarding the release of DEM's ( I know as a fact that they are generated in near real time on the ground after data reception ) or even just map projected versions of all HRSC channels, which again, I know are sat on servers within the HRSC team's infrastructure. Not a single damn reply from anyone (and these are email addresses I know to be valid). When was the last time you heard anything from SPICAM or MARSIS or, indeed, anything on Venus Express apart from what, a small handfull of images. Where's the 'image of the week' or 'PI Perspective' - Where's Smart 1's images - it's just mind blowing that this stuff is not getting shown to the public. I have to stress to people when showing them HRSC pictures in the UK that they were taken by a European spacecraft...."really - I thought only the Americans did that". That...is unforgiveable.


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- AlexBlackwell   Venus Express: One Year in Orbit   Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
- - JRehling   [...]   Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM
|- - Littlebit   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 11:17 AM) T...   Jan 4 2007, 07:13 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "VE is a failed mission." On the contra...   Jan 4 2007, 07:40 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 4 2007, 09:40 AM...   Jan 4 2007, 08:16 PM
|- - helvick   True it is only a PR failure and apart from the PF...   Jan 4 2007, 08:31 PM
- - djellison   A PR failure - but not a failed mission by any str...   Jan 4 2007, 08:09 PM
|- - Littlebit   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 PM) ...   Jan 4 2007, 08:55 PM
- - djellison   Oh - we all know that ESA is just utterly utterly ...   Jan 4 2007, 08:47 PM
- - djellison   Yes - but there IS someone to observe the event - ...   Jan 4 2007, 08:59 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   I think that in the US the space community long ag...   Jan 4 2007, 10:33 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Jan 5 2007, 12:07 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 07:07 PM) I...   Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) C...   Jan 5 2007, 12:26 AM
||- - JonClarke   I have said this before and I am going to say this...   Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ...   Jan 5 2007, 10:07 PM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 11:51 AM) ...   Jan 5 2007, 10:25 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ...   Jan 6 2007, 12:07 AM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM) ...   Jan 7 2007, 07:32 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) T...   Jan 5 2007, 12:32 AM
- - JTN   Since this old chestnut has come up again: I thoug...   Jan 4 2007, 10:30 PM
- - remcook   A question: who does all the outreach for the MERs...   Jan 5 2007, 04:42 PM
- - nprev   Doug & admins, please move this post as approp...   Jan 8 2007, 03:29 AM
- - ollopa   This discussion is more noise than information. C...   Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi...   Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM
||- - 4th rock from the sun   Let me dream a little, but part of the solution to...   Jan 9 2007, 03:36 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi...   Jan 9 2007, 03:34 PM
||- - ollopa   [quote name='djellison' date='Jan 9 20...   Jan 9 2007, 04:23 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM) B...   Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ustrax @ Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM) The...   Jan 9 2007, 07:21 PM
- - djellison   Outside the remit of outreach - but still a job it...   Jan 9 2007, 05:05 PM
- - slinted   I know there's no way of knowing how this woul...   Jan 14 2007, 07:59 AM
- - J.J.   I agree with others who say that the differences b...   Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b...   Jan 14 2007, 09:05 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b...   Jan 15 2007, 09:35 PM
- - edstrick   "have sites that look like they were designed...   Jan 15 2007, 11:29 AM
- - remcook   QUOTE Well, with Giotto and MEx there have been is...   Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM
- - dvandorn   I'm unsure whether this observation should go ...   Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM) ...   Jan 15 2007, 04:31 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   The abstracts for this session are now online. Ch...   Jan 30 2007, 12:57 AM
- - ustrax   Does anyone need a job?... A lot more here.   Feb 14 2007, 12:34 PM


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