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Astro0
post Nov 21 2012, 11:46 AM
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ADMIN NOTE: Hi All, a new topic for the discussion of the science from the SAM and Chemin instruments.
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- Astro0   MSL - SAM and CHEMIN   Nov 21 2012, 11:46 AM
- - EdTruthan   Press release on the Dec. 3rd AGU press conference...   Nov 29 2012, 08:58 PM
- - marsophile   I have video but no audio of the press conference....   Dec 3 2012, 05:43 PM
- - fredk   Details at the press release if anyone hasn't ...   Dec 3 2012, 06:04 PM
- - dvandorn   And yet the media still hear what they want to hea...   Dec 3 2012, 06:59 PM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 3 2012, 07:59 PM) A...   Dec 3 2012, 10:07 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (serpens @ Dec 3 2012, 03:07 PM) Pa...   Dec 3 2012, 11:06 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 3 2012, 06:59 PM) A...   Dec 3 2012, 10:58 PM
- - Hungry4info   Well, in fairness, they did say they detected simp...   Dec 3 2012, 07:02 PM
- - silylene   The chlorinated methanes are interesting. CH3Cl, ...   Dec 3 2012, 07:14 PM
- - nprev   The discontinuity seems to be: 1. "Organics...   Dec 3 2012, 11:08 PM
- - Antonb   Not only was 'organic' not precisely defin...   Dec 4 2012, 02:24 PM
|- - JRehling   If you currently do a Google News search for ...   Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Can we go back to discussing the actual results. N...   Dec 4 2012, 04:40 PM
- - marsophile   For some context, we had the following results fro...   Dec 4 2012, 04:43 PM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 4 2012, 09:43 AM)...   Dec 5 2012, 04:03 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 5 2012, 11:03 AM)...   Dec 5 2012, 04:59 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2012, 09:59 AM) W...   Dec 5 2012, 07:51 PM
||- - NickF   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 5 2012, 01:51 PM)...   Dec 5 2012, 08:47 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 5 2012, 12:51 PM)...   Dec 5 2012, 08:59 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2012, 05:59 PM) W...   Jan 31 2013, 10:47 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (stone @ Jan 31 2013, 03:47 PM) I l...   Feb 1 2013, 12:17 AM
|- - stone   ADMIN TIP: When replying to a post immediately pre...   Feb 1 2013, 06:59 AM
- - Don1   I think we're looking at a work in progress wi...   Dec 5 2012, 02:01 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Don1 @ Dec 4 2012, 06:01 PM) I thi...   Dec 5 2012, 02:20 AM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (Don1 @ Dec 5 2012, 02:01 AM) The m...   Dec 5 2012, 08:32 AM
- - silylene   As I suggested in my prior post in this thread, I ...   Dec 5 2012, 07:29 PM
- - marsophile   One thing that seems puzzling is why chloromethane...   Dec 6 2012, 04:18 AM
- - Don1   Elements like potassium and sodium have several di...   Dec 6 2012, 09:10 AM
- - Gerald   For the 44th Lunar and Planetary Science Conferenc...   Feb 1 2013, 07:11 PM
|- - stone   With the Viking data showing chlorohydrocarbons an...   Feb 1 2013, 09:16 PM
- - marsophile   The cited paper allows for the possibility that th...   Feb 1 2013, 09:29 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (marsophile @ Feb 1 2013, 10:29 PM)...   Feb 2 2013, 11:12 AM
- - Don1   Yes there is news from SAM and it ain't good. ...   Feb 2 2013, 09:28 AM
- - marsophile   Couldn't they simply use up the supply of the ...   Feb 3 2013, 01:38 AM
|- - stone   The MTBSTFA is used to search for amino acids and ...   Feb 3 2013, 07:16 AM
- - marsophile   Then it seems there is a catch-22 situation: They...   Feb 4 2013, 03:41 AM
- - Mr Valiant   I had no idea that the GC was so, so...definative....   Feb 4 2013, 11:27 AM
- - marsophile   Drilling is probably the best bet for getting a pe...   Feb 11 2013, 06:03 AM
|- - stone   If the perchlorates are ancient the vein should be...   Feb 11 2013, 07:43 AM
- - rickyjames   Could somebody please elaborate on the statement m...   Feb 15 2013, 02:41 PM
|- - stone   "Although none of them have been punctured ye...   Feb 15 2013, 05:07 PM
- - marsophile   If the SAM and CHEMIN instruments performed measur...   Mar 9 2013, 02:40 AM
|- - stone   The heating like done by SAM is not done often on ...   Mar 9 2013, 10:52 AM
- - jmknapp   Check this report of SAM tests on Earth: Mars Sci...   Mar 9 2013, 11:11 AM
|- - stone   I know what the SAM team had at AMASE in 2010 and ...   Mar 9 2013, 04:44 PM
- - Don1   Many Mars meteorites contain organics at levels th...   Mar 10 2013, 09:38 AM
|- - stone   The detection level is a very complicated topic fo...   Mar 10 2013, 10:14 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Don1 @ Mar 10 2013, 09:38 AM) ther...   Mar 10 2013, 03:22 PM
|- - Don1   QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 10 2013, 07:22 AM) But...   Mar 10 2013, 08:17 PM
|- - stone   The MTBSTFA gives you a nice background and makes ...   Mar 10 2013, 09:46 PM
- - xflare   But don't we already know Mars has/had organic...   Mar 10 2013, 10:50 AM
|- - t_d   QUOTE (xflare @ Mar 10 2013, 06:50 AM) Bu...   Mar 10 2013, 01:11 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (xflare @ Mar 10 2013, 05:50 AM) Bu...   Mar 10 2013, 05:36 PM
- - Cardinal   From what I can tell, the actual press conference ...   Mar 11 2013, 08:28 PM
- - nprev   Repeat: Don't get too excited. This will be an...   Mar 11 2013, 08:43 PM
|- - xflare   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 11 2013, 08:43 PM) Rep...   Mar 11 2013, 09:45 PM
- - belleraphon1   Agree with nprev. Analysis by CheMin and SAM of ...   Mar 11 2013, 09:24 PM
- - jmknapp   True--in terms of announcing subsystem firsts, the...   Mar 11 2013, 09:56 PM
- - Don1   Today's announcement looks like a mixture of g...   Mar 12 2013, 09:24 PM
- - marsophile   Did they specifically identify perchlorate, or is ...   Mar 12 2013, 10:15 PM
- - fredk   All I remember is a statement that they saw perchl...   Mar 12 2013, 11:12 PM
- - Don1   They see oxygen released at a temperature consiste...   Mar 13 2013, 02:10 AM
|- - t_d   Wouldn't heating the sample for twenty minutes...   Mar 13 2013, 03:20 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, and they measure them all. Phil   Mar 13 2013, 03:26 AM
- - centsworth_II   Here is a transcript of SAM PI Paul Mahaffy's ...   Mar 13 2013, 04:22 AM
- - elakdawalla   I thought I heard "nanomoles," not ...   Mar 13 2013, 04:35 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 12 2013, 11:35 P...   Mar 13 2013, 04:57 AM
- - Doug M.   A number of articles are mentioning the presence o...   Mar 13 2013, 08:55 AM
|- - orbitmars   P2O5 has been detected in Gusev, Meridiani and Gal...   Mar 13 2013, 09:57 AM
- - jmknapp   Ken Kremer from Spaceflight magazine asked about N...   Mar 13 2013, 10:35 AM
|- - Doug M.   So, it looks like we're seeing P2O5 at about 0...   Mar 13 2013, 11:45 AM
|- - Doug M.   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Mar 13 2013, 12:35 PM) A...   Mar 13 2013, 12:29 PM
|- - NickF   Phosphorous (in the form of phosphate) is required...   Mar 13 2013, 12:42 PM
- - jmknapp   Did he say how much N was found? Or does the fact ...   Mar 13 2013, 12:42 PM
- - Doug M.   Googling around, I found this recent paper: http:...   Mar 13 2013, 02:09 PM
- - MrNatural   Would anyone care to elaborate on the SAM CO2 find...   Mar 14 2013, 02:23 AM
- - nprev   Not to be iconoclastic, but considering that the c...   Mar 14 2013, 03:00 AM
- - elakdawalla   I'm no GCMS expert, but as far as I understand...   Mar 14 2013, 03:13 AM
- - nprev   Ah. Thanks! Makes sense; just thought that poi...   Mar 14 2013, 03:18 AM
- - Don1   I think the CO2 is coming off at too high a temper...   Mar 14 2013, 04:38 AM
|- - MrNatural   QUOTE (Don1 @ Mar 14 2013, 05:38 AM) I th...   Mar 14 2013, 11:50 AM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 13 2013, 06:29 AM) H...   Mar 14 2013, 06:08 AM
|- - Don1   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Mar 13 2013, 11:08 ...   Mar 14 2013, 08:18 PM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Mar 14 2013, 07:08 ...   Mar 14 2013, 10:30 PM
- - Doug M.   Here's a hypothetical question. Suppose you w...   Mar 14 2013, 10:12 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Oops, I forgot about Comanche.   Mar 14 2013, 11:29 PM
- - dvandorn   Phoenix also identified carbonates as one of the c...   Mar 15 2013, 12:17 AM
|- - serpens   Not without non-acidic water.   Mar 15 2013, 05:43 AM
- - Don1   Small amounts of carbonates were detected in the s...   Mar 15 2013, 08:09 PM
- - pospa   Atmospheric measurements done by SAM revealed much...   Apr 8 2013, 02:27 PM
- - Gerald   (Moved from thread "First drill stop: John Kl...   Apr 8 2013, 03:57 PM
- - Don1   The SAM results from EGU show significant differen...   Apr 14 2013, 09:38 PM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (Don1 @ Apr 14 2013, 02:38 PM) ... ...   Apr 15 2013, 03:42 PM
|- - t_d   QUOTE (Don1 @ Apr 14 2013, 05:38 PM) The ...   Apr 16 2013, 11:36 AM
- - elakdawalla   Could the runs have used different GC columns?   Apr 15 2013, 05:46 PM
|- - MahFL   They did say they are no where near having ran all...   Apr 16 2013, 11:38 AM
- - Don1   @marsophile & Emily : I've no idea why the...   Apr 16 2013, 09:10 PM
|- - stone   The March results start at 480F (248°C) while the ...   Apr 17 2013, 06:39 AM
- - serpens   One scale Fahrenheit and the other Celcius? I wou...   Apr 17 2013, 07:23 AM
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