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Distant vistas, Endeavour, Iazu, and beyond
ElkGroveDan
post Jul 4 2010, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 4 2010, 06:40 AM) *
But where will it appear on the horizon when it does become visible..?

To answer your question literally, where will it appear WHEN it becomes visible, we need to make two guesses; 1) which exact route we will be taking in the future 2) how the finer points of rises in the terrain will come into play, knowing as we do that the subtle elevations we see in Google Mars are not necessarily true. As far as I can tell, Cape York from our present perspective lies almost directly beneath the higher crater on the slope of the far rim. If it appears before we get to Santa Maria then it's going to be slightly farther South than the rim crater, which is about where you've chosen Stu. If it doesn't appear until after Santa Maria (very unlikely) then it will be quite a bit farther South relative to the background.

My guess is that we are going to see it rather soon, I'd say 1500 meters farther along the blue line than where we were on sol 2286. In your image it would then appear at the left tip of the oval you've drawn.
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post Jul 4 2010, 04:25 PM
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Hmmm. Food for thought there, Dan. Thanks!

(munch munch munch)

Maybe something like this..?
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post Jul 4 2010, 04:40 PM
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Leave room for your dinner young man!

Very close though I think there is going to be a very distinct peak.


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post Jul 4 2010, 04:48 PM
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Over on the left, yeah, I did wonder about putting that it but it's been a long day and I really can't be bothered, to be honest! I'll leave a more accurate version to one of our more accomplished image mages. I need to catch up on sleep after a weekend of camping - next to the loudest family of Geordies on the planet - and drooling at all the stuff in the Dr Who exhibition...

Edit: oh, you HAD to go and plant that seed in my head, didn't you..?! laugh.gif

Ok, maybe more like this...

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post Jul 4 2010, 05:06 PM
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Can't wait till we really do catch sight of Cape York. wink.gif

In the meantime, I don't think anyone has pointed out that we now have a good view of the as-yet-unnamed hill directly north of Cape Tribulation. Here's a very crude lineup with the new hill circled:
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Cape York is lower than this new hill, but just how much is hard to say...
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post Jul 4 2010, 05:20 PM
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VERY nice catch Fred, that had completely passed me by. That's another piece of the jigsaw filled in. smile.gif

BTW: way too big to post here, but here's a rather ohmy.gif view of Cape York I made by stitching together some crops of the "anaglyph" view of a HiRISE image...

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post Jul 4 2010, 06:13 PM
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The subjective impression I got from looking at Nirgal's 3Ds was that all of Cape York is lower than the plains outside Endeavour. In that case it wouldn't be visible until we're almost there, on the lip of the Endeavour depression. Oh well, there's only one way to find out . . smile.gif

EDIT: A relevant link here. http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=20818
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post Jul 4 2010, 08:41 PM
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That crater on the inner wall of the eastern rim... it's actually bigger than Endurance... That's an Endurance-sized crater, blasted out of one of the walls of Endeavour, and we're going to get better and better views of it... how cool is that?

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post Jul 5 2010, 01:47 AM
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Since we previously had a "Rimshot Crater" I propose the name "Broadside Crater." smile.gif


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QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 4 2010, 09:20 AM) *
here's a rather ohmy.gif view of Cape York I made by stitching together some crops of the "anaglyph" view of a HiRISE image...

Too bad there is no one here with the skill to make a DEM out of that and then create one of those Quicktime thingies where you slide the button back and forth to change perspective. Probably FAR too difficult for anyone who's a member here. rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 5 2010, 03:40 AM
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Ah Dan. Didn't your parents warn you about playing with fire. laugh.gif
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post Jul 5 2010, 08:55 AM
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Cook’s account of the discovery and naming of the original Cape York.

Which is part of a fabulous site transcribing and interlinking the main journals of the Endeavour Voyage. If anyone’s casting about for a good book to take on holiday, there’s a brilliant narrative of the whole Endeavour expedition by Patrick “Master and Commander” O’Brian in his biography of Joseph Banks.
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post Jul 5 2010, 09:17 AM
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Fantastic resource phil, thanks for that! smile.gif


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I guess we're not yet at the, how do we call it, look-out (?), I mean the place just before we'll go down. So, is there any chance to see Cape York from there? Anyway, another Official panorama from there will show us more features, not counting we'll be closer.


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post Jul 6 2010, 07:57 PM
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Has anyone posted a map of where Cape York is relative to Opportunity and Endeavor crater? I haven't seen it labeled on any of the maps yet. Maybe I've just missed it...
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