Distant vistas, Endeavour, Iazu, and beyond |
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Distant vistas, Endeavour, Iazu, and beyond |
Jul 4 2010, 02:46 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4533 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Sloughhouse, CA Member No.: 197 |
But where will it appear on the horizon when it does become visible..? To answer your question literally, where will it appear WHEN it becomes visible, we need to make two guesses; 1) which exact route we will be taking in the future 2) how the finer points of rises in the terrain will come into play, knowing as we do that the subtle elevations we see in Google Mars are not necessarily true. As far as I can tell, Cape York from our present perspective lies almost directly beneath the higher crater on the slope of the far rim. If it appears before we get to Santa Maria then it's going to be slightly farther South than the rim crater, which is about where you've chosen Stu. If it doesn't appear until after Santa Maria (very unlikely) then it will be quite a bit farther South relative to the background. My guess is that we are going to see it rather soon, I'd say 1500 meters farther along the blue line than where we were on sol 2286. In your image it would then appear at the left tip of the oval you've drawn. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 4 2010, 04:25 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Hmmm. Food for thought there, Dan. Thanks!
(munch munch munch) Maybe something like this..? -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2010, 04:40 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4533 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Sloughhouse, CA Member No.: 197 |
Leave room for your dinner young man!
Very close though I think there is going to be a very distinct peak. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 4 2010, 04:48 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Over on the left, yeah, I did wonder about putting that it but it's been a long day and I really can't be bothered, to be honest! I'll leave a more accurate version to one of our more accomplished image mages. I need to catch up on sleep after a weekend of camping - next to the loudest family of Geordies on the planet - and drooling at all the stuff in the Dr Who exhibition...
Edit: oh, you HAD to go and plant that seed in my head, didn't you..?! Ok, maybe more like this... -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2010, 05:06 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2762 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Can't wait till we really do catch sight of Cape York.
In the meantime, I don't think anyone has pointed out that we now have a good view of the as-yet-unnamed hill directly north of Cape Tribulation. Here's a very crude lineup with the new hill circled: Cape York is lower than this new hill, but just how much is hard to say... |
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Jul 4 2010, 05:20 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
VERY nice catch Fred, that had completely passed me by. That's another piece of the jigsaw filled in.
BTW: way too big to post here, but here's a rather http://roadtoendeavour.files.wordpress.com...-york-in-3d.jpg -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2010, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2941 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
The subjective impression I got from looking at Nirgal's 3Ds was that all of Cape York is lower than the plains outside Endeavour. In that case it wouldn't be visible until we're almost there, on the lip of the Endeavour depression. Oh well, there's only one way to find out . .
EDIT: A relevant link here. http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=20818 |
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Jul 4 2010, 08:41 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
That crater on the inner wall of the eastern rim... it's actually bigger than Endurance... That's an Endurance-sized crater, blasted out of one of the walls of Endeavour, and we're going to get better and better views of it... how cool is that?
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Jul 5 2010, 01:47 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4533 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Sloughhouse, CA Member No.: 197 |
Since we previously had a "Rimshot Crater" I propose the name "Broadside Crater."
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 5 2010, 01:51 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4533 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Sloughhouse, CA Member No.: 197 |
here's a rather Too bad there is no one here with the skill to make a DEM out of that and then create one of those Quicktime thingies where you slide the button back and forth to change perspective. Probably FAR too difficult for anyone who's a member here. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 5 2010, 03:40 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2442 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Ah Dan. Didn't your parents warn you about playing with fire.
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Jul 5 2010, 08:55 AM
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Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 13-April 05 Member No.: 232 |
Cook’s account of the discovery and naming of the original Cape York.
Which is part of a fabulous site transcribing and interlinking the main journals of the Endeavour Voyage. If anyone’s casting about for a good book to take on holiday, there’s a brilliant narrative of the whole Endeavour expedition by Patrick “Master and Commander” O’Brian in his biography of Joseph Banks. |
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Jul 5 2010, 09:17 AM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Fantastic resource phil, thanks for that!
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Jul 5 2010, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2566 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
I guess we're not yet at the, how do we call it, look-out (?), I mean the place just before we'll go down. So, is there any chance to see Cape York from there? Anyway, another Official panorama from there will show us more features, not counting we'll be closer.
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Jul 6 2010, 07:57 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 286 Joined: 29-August 06 From: Columbia, MD Member No.: 1083 |
Has anyone posted a map of where Cape York is relative to Opportunity and Endeavor crater? I haven't seen it labeled on any of the maps yet. Maybe I've just missed it...
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