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New MSL and MER comparison Image from JPL, Setting Expectations for Future Generations
mars loon
post Mar 21 2006, 11:39 PM
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A revealing new comparison image of MSL and MER

The JPL caption and article are below



This artist's concept shows that the next generation rover, Mars Science Laboratory, is much larger than Spirit and Opportunity.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

Setting Expectations for Future Generations

That's important, because the rovers depend on sun intake for their health. Like many boomers, they will be seeking the sunniest places to face winter, which is once again approaching on Mars. Having already lasted over a martian year - almost nine times longer than planned! - no one is sure just how much longer they will last.

"Once the rovers stop working, I'll miss seeing new pictures every day, but since I don't consider myself ancient, I hope to work on the Mars Science Laboratory mission after the rovers die," smiles Matijevic.

And, as new generations of rovers continue driving faster and farther on Mars, future generations of astronauts--perhaps the grandchildren of today's Baby Boomers--will begin to head farther away from Earth. On the horizon is a whole new era for a human-robotic partnership, with the young-at-heart rovers raising the bar for all who follow.
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post Mar 22 2006, 01:40 PM
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If what kills the MERs is broken wires caused by movement in a thermally hostile environment, then they are going to have to do some clever work to stop the same thing killing MSL.

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post Mar 24 2006, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 07:40 AM) *
If what kills the MERs is broken wires caused by movement in a thermally hostile environment, then they are going to have to do some clever work to stop the same thing killing MSL.

The MERs were truly not designed with the thought in mind that the exposed wire bundles would have to suffer through more than 800 thermal cycles as severe as those seen on Mars. Remember, right up until the girls just kept performing normally well past their design lifetimes, their builders and handlers expected to get 90 sols out of them. Anything beyond that would be gravy -- so they didn't take long-term survival into account in their design. At all.

I'm sure that there are tricks you can use (like using wire and insulation with the best low-temperature ductility and flexibility you can find, as well as designing your wiring paths to reduce to the bare minimum the amount of wire flexing you induce in normal operations) that the MSL designers will at least consider in trying to ensure their vehicle remains in perfect operating condition for at least one Martian year.

If they do their jobs as well as the MER designers did their jobs, we could see MSL last for several Martian years. But we need to build it, launch it, and get it safely down onto the Martian surface first.

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post Mar 24 2006, 09:28 AM
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Um yes. Well put smile.gif

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- mars loon   New MSL and MER comparison Image from JPL   Mar 21 2006, 11:39 PM
- - PhilCo126   I've read somewhere online that MSL might be n...   Mar 22 2006, 01:15 PM
- - chris   If what kills the MERs is broken wires caused by m...   Mar 22 2006, 01:40 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 07:40 AM) If ...   Mar 24 2006, 03:46 AM
|- - chris   Um yes. Well put Chris   Mar 24 2006, 09:28 AM
- - djellison   When you've got yay-kW of heat sitting on the ...   Mar 22 2006, 02:14 PM
|- - Chmee   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 22 2006, 09:14 AM)...   Mar 22 2006, 02:24 PM
||- - odave   QUOTE (Chmee @ Mar 22 2006, 09:24 AM) Str...   Mar 22 2006, 02:38 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 22 2006, 06:14 AM)...   Mar 22 2006, 02:24 PM
- - jabe   mmm.. If my recollection of a press conference a w...   Mar 22 2006, 04:56 PM
- - chris   Hmm, this makes me wonder - other than the MERs, i...   Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM) Hmm...   Mar 22 2006, 06:29 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (chris @ Mar 22 2006, 05:09 PM) Hmm...   Mar 23 2006, 12:18 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Mar 22 2006, 04:18 P...   Mar 25 2006, 07:14 AM
- - djellison   Hostile - maybe some of the deep oceanic drilling ...   Mar 22 2006, 05:13 PM
- - odave   It seems to me, given that MSL's primary surfa...   Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM
|- - chris   QUOTE (odave @ Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM) It ...   Mar 22 2006, 06:54 PM
- - jaywee   And did they put the HGA back? I remember seeing a...   Mar 22 2006, 06:37 PM
|- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (jaywee @ Mar 22 2006, 06:37 PM) An...   Mar 22 2006, 08:34 PM
- - jabe   ok..I took a screen capture of the jan 26th briefi...   Mar 22 2006, 11:07 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (jabe @ Mar 22 2006, 11:07 PM) ok.....   Mar 23 2006, 11:17 AM
- - hendric   I hereby nickname MSL "The Skunk".   Mar 23 2006, 04:58 PM
- - tty   Every aircraft operating in the tropics has to sta...   Mar 25 2006, 05:13 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That uptilted box on the rear of the MSL model is ...   Mar 25 2006, 10:04 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 02:04 P...   Mar 25 2006, 10:22 PM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 25 2006, 10:22 PM...   Mar 25 2006, 10:31 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 25 2006, 10:22 PM...   Mar 26 2006, 03:58 AM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 07:58 P...   Mar 26 2006, 04:41 AM
- - Matt Francis   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 07:58 P...   Mar 26 2006, 04:45 AM
- - mchan   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 07:58 P...   Mar 26 2006, 04:48 AM


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