El Dorado, The place formerly known as Ultreya |
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El Dorado, The place formerly known as Ultreya |
 Dec 20 2005, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (mars loon @ Dec 17 2005, 02:08 AM) a looney request. while we ponder "El Dorado" and "Ultreya", what is the meaning behind "Ustrax" and the source of his passions and poetry?  mars loon... „Feuer“: ignis, quoquihabin, ardon, calax, spiridon, rusin, fragon, fumaton, ustrax, uitius, siluleus, aeneon... The source of passion and poetry? A great joy of being alive and sharing the process and experience od Discover with people who understand it's true meaning. The source? Ultreya et Sus Eia...Onward and Upward, towards the unknown, towards ourselves... Nietzche once thought, and fortunately wrote, 'I'm certainly a flame', we all are. That is my motto while I'm around. -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Dec 21 2005, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 20 2005, 09:41 PM) Hi Tes ! here you are .... your wish is my command   (click on thumbnail for large resolution) seems that those *literally* out-from-this-world-views that Spirit sends us are getting better all the time ! Thanks a lot, Nirgal! That's a beautiful view. 
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Dec 23 2005, 07:47 PM
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This is from today's update by Steve Squyres:
QUOTE With the Comanche campaign wrapping up, it was decision time... Allegeny Ridge or El Dorado? We had a long meeting about that at mid-week, and the consensus decision was to head for El Dorado. We should begin the drive on about Sol 704, and we're hoping it will go quickly. Expect Spirit to do a lot of driving and (except at El Dorado) not much IDD work in the weeks ahead. Bill |
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Dec 23 2005, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
Thanks Bill.
Today Spirits' sol is 702. The sol 704 would be next Sunday. So let us wait until tuesday December 27 for the coming pictures and data. Merry Christmas Rodolfo |
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Dec 23 2005, 09:22 PM
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From Spirit's Sol 699 Pancam offering, here is an L257 of the El Dorado ripple field and a 4x-vertical exaggeration of the same image.
I'm not as much up on dunes as I should be, but what can be said about these ripples and the mechanical properties of their sand? --Bill -------------------- |
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Dec 25 2005, 08:11 AM
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I can understand why they want to check out El Dorado. Allegheny is yet another in a series of outcrops, some of which we've already looked at and some of which we're planning on looking at as we approach and investigate Home Plate. But El Dorado is representative of a *lot* of dark sand fields seen in the wind shadows of these hills. If we characterize this one, we'll probably be able to characterize them all (at least in general terms).
And it's now close at hand. If it takes only one or two IDD runs to get all the answers about these dark sand fields, we'll be able to scoot on along to Home Plate. That'll take less time overall than another detailed characterization of yet another outcrop... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Dec 25 2005, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE dvandorn said: I can understand why they want to check out El Dorado. We certainly need to take a closer look, my really first post on this forum was a question if it might be volcanic ash which was my thinking for an explanation back then. Now we've finally have gotten a good look, it might be less likely but that makes it even more so one reason to try to find out the composition of this material. |
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Dec 25 2005, 07:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Exactly. And if mini-TES can give us a general idea that these dark sand deposits are all of similar composition and are relatively homogenous, we can characterize an entire unit here with a one- or two-stop visit. I think it's a good time investment.
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Dec 26 2005, 05:25 PM
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I wish we could get closer to the ElDorado dune ripple field. I am still hoping the see if there are any microcraters in Gusev (none seen yet). The dune ripple field would be an excellent surface to produce microcraters (assuming they form from impact).
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Dec 26 2005, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (silylene @ Dec 26 2005, 05:25 PM) I wish we could get closer to the ElDorado dune ripple field. We are... http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=1906 It's the next stop. Doug |
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Nov 2 2006, 04:52 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
 There's something making me scratch my head... I was googling for an old image which I didn't quite recall the name so I just went and typed ustrax because I knew my signature made part of the link... I found the image I wanted among some other pre-historical stuff but, in the middle of those wacky Ultreya graphics it appeared an image from MOC... (just google ustrax images and go to the 3rd and last page...) How the hell does my nickname is linked to a Mars image posted precisely on the day we had the El Dorado party around here?...  I've searched on the page for more details but nothing appears... Wird...But cool... Direct link for the image...Where is that?! EDITED: Hey! If you try with djellison it happens the same!  Come on guys try with your nicks...  What's going on here?... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 2 2006, 08:24 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
QUOTE (ustrax @ Nov 2 2006, 04:52 PM) What's going on here?... Huumm...I guess the answer lays right here... Anyway...wird conjunction...The only MOC image linked to my nick appears on the day I read Mr. Squyres e-e-mail with the El Dorado explanation... I have to look at that image carefuly...Maybe there's an abyss in it... 
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jan 12 2010, 12:59 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Has Eldorado lost its mythical meaning?...
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/scie...icle6982391.ece EDITED: Here's a New Yorker article: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/news...-city-of-z.html And the original paper: http://antiquity.ac.uk/ant/083/ant0831084.htm -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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