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post Jan 16 2022, 07:30 AM
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Seems to be working for me using Chrome. Are you sure you're waiting long enough for it to upload, maybe?


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post Jan 16 2022, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 15 2022, 11:30 PM) *
Seems to be working for me using Chrome. Are you sure you're waiting long enough for it to upload, maybe?

Did some further investigation. Problem is triggered by image dimensions (not file size).
Trying to upload a 4096x6212 jpeg. If I reduce the dimensions slightly to either 4088x6200 or 4096x6153 it works.
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post Jan 17 2022, 01:11 AM
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Ah! Yeah, that limit is there to conserve bandwidth for mobile users and for those in parts of the world that may not have broadband connectivity. Glad you found a solution. smile.gif


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post Jun 30 2022, 03:26 PM
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I am receiving an incorrect page/post when following a link to a post that is near the bottom of a page: the next page is displayed instead of the one with the referenced post. Here are a couple of examples:

- Unmanned Spaceflight.com > Mars & Missions > MSL > MSL Route Map > Post #1634 link

- Unmanned Spaceflight.com > Mars & Missions > MSL > MSL Route Map > Post #1725 link

If, however, the post is at or close to the page's top, the correct post is displayed:

- Unmanned Spaceflight.com > Mars & Missions > MSL > MSL Route Map > Post #1608 link

I combed the Forum's Help but could not find an explanation. Examining the post's generated HTML no obvious differences can be seen. Any help is much appreciated.

Fernando
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post Jun 30 2022, 03:57 PM
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I sometimes access the forum on an Android tablet using Firefox. Starting a few months ago, going to the main page seems to autorefresh constantly, so the only way to use the site is to manually stop the reload and refresh as needed until a valid page is displayed. This doesn't happen if you tell Firefox to use the desktop version of the site.

Unfortunately Android Firefox has been so dumbed-down that I can't look at the page source, so my ability to diagnose this is limited.

This could easily be a Firefox problem but I haven't seen it on any other site.


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post Jun 30 2022, 05:17 PM
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One follow up- on Edge Beta, the website is showing a 'Not secure' / no certificate warning.
I don't recall seeing that before, but hadn't really looked either.
-edit- also getting the 'Not secure' on 64-bit Chrome & Firefox browsers.

One possibility is that some implementations of Ad Blockers and HTTPS preferences can force a loading loop.
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post Jun 30 2022, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jun 30 2022, 04:57 PM) *
This could easily be a Firefox problem but I haven't seen it on any other site.

My thanks to all who replied.
In addition to Firefox, I have the exact same issue with Chrome Version 103.0.5060.66 (Official Build) (32-bit), Microsoft Edge Version 103.0.1264.37 (Official build) (64-bit), and Duck-Duck-go for Android.
A long time ago I reported that it is not possible to securely sign on to UMSF (the https port is disabled).

Perhaps the site would benefit from some maintenance? Thanks.
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post Jul 2 2022, 09:15 AM
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Copy all, and thanks for the reports. Let me see what I can do when I get some free time over the weekend, and thanks again! smile.gif


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post Jul 2 2022, 09:52 AM
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Let me see what I can do when I get some free time over the weekend, and thanks again! smile.gif


For what it's worth, here's how my Edge Beta 64-bit on Win-10 parses this page

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<link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" />
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border: 1px solid #CCC;
border-top: 0;
margin: 5px;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
}

.fieldwrap h4{
background: #EEE;
border: 1px solid #CCC;
border-left: 0;
border-right: 0;
color: #444;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

.errorwrap {
background: #F2DDDD;
border: 1px solid #992A2A;
border-top: 0;
margin: 5px;
padding: 0;
}


.errorwrap h4 {
background: #E3C0C0;
border: 1px solid #992A2A;
border-left: 0;
border-right: 0;
color: #992A2A;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

.errorwrap p {
background: transparent;
border: 0;
color: #992A2A;
margin: 0;
padding: 8px;
}


.ruleswrap{
background: #F2DDDD;
border: 1px solid #992A2A;
color: #992A2A;
margin: 5px 0 5px 0;
padding: 5px;
}

#redirectwrap{
background: #FFF;
border: 1px solid #c4c4c4;
padding: 1px;
margin: 200px auto 0 auto;
text-align: left;
width: 500px;
}

#redirectwrap h4{
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

#redirectwrap p{
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

#redirectwrap p.redirectfoot{
margin: 0px !important;
padding: 5px !important;
text-align: center;
}


#gfooter{
margin: 5px 0 5px 0;
padding: 0;
width: 100%;
}

#gfooter td{
font-size: 10px;
padding: 7px;
}

#gfooter a:link,
#gfooter a:visited{
}

#logostrip{
background: #303b4a url(style_images/ip.boardpr/tile_back.jpg);
height: 68px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
}

#logographic{
background: transparent url(style_images/ip.boardpr/logo4.jpg) no-repeat left;
height: 68px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

#submenu{
margin: 0;
height: 30px;
text-align: right;
}

#submenu_left a {
float: left;
}

#submenu_right a {
float: right;
}

#submenu a {
display: block;
padding: 7px;
text-decoration: none;
}

#submenu a:hover {

}

#userlinks,
#userlinksguest{
margin: 0px 0 5px 0;
padding: 0 5px 0 5px;
clear: both;
}

#userlinksguest{

}

#userlinks p,
#userlinksguest p{
background: transparent !important;
border: 0 !important;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
letter-spacing: 1px;
margin: 0 !important;
padding: 7px 0 7px 0;
text-align: right;
}

#userlinks p,
#userlinksguest p{
font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: 0;
}

#userlinksguest p.pcen{
text-align: center;
}

#userlinks p.home,
#userlinksguest p.home{
float: left;
}

#navstrip{
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0 0 5px 0;
padding: 5px 0px 8px 0px;
}

#navstrip a:link,
#navstrip a:visited{
text-decoration: none;
}

#navstrip a:hover,
#navstrip a:active{

}

.toplinks{
background: transparent;
color: #565656;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 5px 0;
text-align: right;
}

.toplinks span{
color: #565656;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

.toplinks a {
color: #686868;
}

.copyright{
font-size: 11px;
margin: 0 0 5px 0;
padding: 8px;
}

/* @group Print styles */

#print{
margin: 20px auto 20px auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
width: 85%;
}

#print h1,
#print h2,
#print h3,
#print h4,
#print p{
color: #036;
font-size: 18px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 8px;
}

#print h2,
#print h3,
#print p{
border-bottom: 1px solid #999;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: normal;
}

#print h3{
background: #F5F5F5;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0 0 10px 0;
}

#print h4{
background: #F9F9F9;
font-size: 11px;
}

#print p{
margin: 0 0 5px 0;
padding: 10px;
}

#print p.printcopy{
border: 0;
color: #000;
text-align: center;
}

.dny-edit-title
{
border:0px;
padding:3px;
margin:0px;
background: #D1DCEB;
color: #3A4F6C;
}



/* @end */


/* ======================================== */
/* TABS
/* ======================================== */

.tabon
{
border-width: 1px 1px 0px 1px;
border-style: solid;
padding:8px;
float:left;
width:auto;
margin-top:1px;
font-size:11px;
}

.taboff
{
border-width: 1px 1px 0px 1px;
border-style: solid;
padding:8px;
float: left;
width: auto;
margin-top:1px;
font-size:11px;
}

.tabon a:link,
.tabon a:visited,
.tabon a:active
{
text-decoration:none;
}

.taboff a:link,
.taboff a:visited,
.taboff a:active
{
text-decoration:none;
}

.mya-back
{
background: #eaeaea;
margin:1px;
padding: 1px;
}

.mya-content
{
background: #FFF;
padding:8px;
margin: 1px;
border: 1px solid #777;
}

.mya-content-tbl
{
background: #F0F5FA;
border: 1px solid #777;
text-align:left;
font-size:10px;
white-space:nowrap;
margin:1px;
}

.mya-fieldwrap
{
background: transparent;
margin-top: 2px;
margin-bottom: 2px;
padding: 4px;
border: 1px solid #C5C7CD;
-moz-border-radius: 5px;
width: auto;
display: block;
}

/* -------------------------------- */
/* Create PM box defaults */
/* -------------------------------- */

.iframeshim
{
position:absolute;
display:none;
background: #FFF;
border:0px;
width:auto;
height:auto;
}



/* -------------------------------- */
/* Experimental */
/* -------------------------------- */

/* @group Popup Menus */

.popupmenu,
.popupmenu-new
{
background: #f4f4f4;
border: 1px solid #989898;
text-align:left;
font-size:11px;
white-space:nowrap;
/*padding:3px 5px 3px 3px;*/
/*width:300px;*/
}

.popupmenu-item
{
padding: 5px;
/*margin-top:4px;*/
white-space: nowrap;
border-bottom: 1px solid #d0d0d0;
color: #000000;
font-weight: normal;
}

.popupmenu-item-last
{
padding: 5px;
/*margin-top:4px;*/
white-space: nowrap;
color: #000000;
font-weight: normal;
}

.popmenubutton-new,
.popmenubutton
{
white-space:nowrap;
background-color: #f0f0f0;
border: 1px solid #adadad;
color: #30343b;
font-weight:bold;
float:right;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
font-size:11px;
padding: 2px 8px 2px 8px;
}

.popmenubutton-new,
.popmenubutton-new-out
{
float:none;
width:auto;
text-align:left;
height:auto;
padding:4px;
font-weight:normal;
background-color:#f0f0f0;
background-image: url(style_images/ip.boardpr/menu_action_down-padded.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: right;
}

.popmenubutton-new-out
{
padding: 4px;
background-color:#dce1e8;
border: 1px solid #a9b0bb;
}


.popupmenu-new
{
background-color: #f4f4f4;
}

.maintitle .popmenubutton {
margin: -3px 0px -3px 5px;
}

.popmenubutton a:link,
.popmenubutton a:visited,
.popmenubutton-new a:link,
.popmenubutton-new a:visited,
.popmenubutton-new-out a:link,
.popmenubutton-new-out a:visited,
.popupmenu-item a:link,
.popupmenu-item a:visited,
.popupmenu-item-last a:link,
.popupmenu-item-last a:visited
{
text-decoration: none;
-moz-outline: none;
}

.popmenubutton a:hover,
.popmenubutton-new a:hover,
.popupmenu-item a:hover,
.popupmenu-item-last a:hover
{
text-decoration: none;
}

.popupmenu-category
{
background-color: #aaaaaa;
color: #464646;
font-size: 11px;
font-weight: bold;
letter-spacing: 1px;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}



/* @end */

/* -------------------------------- */
/* Loading box
/* -------------------------------- */

#loading-layer-inner
{
width:220px;
height:28px;
padding:18px 10px 10px 10px;
text-align:center;
color: #000;
border: 1px solid;
border-color:#CCC #666 #666 #CCC;
background-color: #FCF8C7;
}

/* -------------------------------- */
/* Message in a bo(x|ttle)
/* -------------------------------- */

#ipd-msg-wrapper
{
display: none;
width: 220px;
}

#ipd-msg-inner
{
width:100%;
height:45px;
padding: 6px 4px 4px 4px;
margin: 0px;
text-align:center;
color: #000;
border: 1px solid;
border-color:#ccc #666 #666 #ccc;
background-color: #FCF8C7;
filter:alpha(opacity=75);
opacity:.75
}

#ipd-msg-title
{
width: 100%;
height:20px;
margin: 0px;
padding: 6px 4px 4px 4px;
background: transparent url(style_images/ip.boardpr/css_pp_header.gif);
border: 1px solid #3A4F6C;
border-bottom: 0px;
color: #FFF;
}

.linked-image
{
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
border: 0px;
}

.resized-linked-image
{
margin: 1px 0px 0px 0px;
padding: 0px;
background-color: #000;
border: 0px;
color: #FFF;
font-size: 10px;
width: auto;
-moz-border-radius-topleft: 7px;
-moz-border-radius-topright: 7px;
}

.resized-linked-image-zoom
{
width: 200px;
height: 30px;
filter:alpha(opacity=85);
opacity:.85;
background-color: #FFF;
padding-top: 6px;
padding-left: 5px;
top: 0px;
left: 0px;
position: absolute;
display: none;
}

/* -------------------------------- */
/* Edit post reason
/* -------------------------------- */

.post-edit-reason
{
background: #E7EAEF;
margin-top: 9px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
padding: 4px;
color: #333;
font-size: 10px;
border: 1px solid #C5C7CD;
-moz-border-radius: 5px;
width: auto;
display: block;
}

/* -------------------------------- */
/* Personal Profile
/* -------------------------------- */

.pp-name
{
background: #eeeeee;
margin: 0px;
padding: 10px;
}

/* @group Personal Profile */

.pp-name h3
{
margin:0px;
padding:0px 0px 5px 0px;
font-size:24px;
}

.pp-header
{
font-size: 10px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0px 0px 1px 0px;
padding: 5px;
}

.pp-title
{
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0px;
padding: 8px;
}

.pp-datebox
{
text-align: center;
background: #FFFFFF;
border: 1px solid #8e8e8e;
padding: 4px;
margin: 0px;
font-size:18px;
font-weight:bold;
line-height: 100%;
letter-spacing: -1px;
float:right;
width: auto;
}

.pp-datebox em
{
color: #AAA;
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}

.pp-contentbox-back
{
background-color: #cacaca;
padding: 6px;
}

.pp-contentbox-entry,
.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight,
.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-mod,
.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-sel
{
background-color: #f7f7f7;
border: 1px solid #8e8e8e;
line-height: 140%;
padding: 8px;
margin-bottom: 6px;
height: 200px;
overflow: auto;
overflow-x: auto;
}

.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-sel
{
background-color:#FCECCD;
}

.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-mod
{
background-color:#FDF1DA;
}

.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight,
.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-mod,
.pp-contentbox-entry-noheight-sel
{
height: auto;
margin-bottom: 1px;
}

.pp-image-thumb-wrap,
.pp-image-thumb-wrap-floatright,
.pp-image-mini-wrap,
.pp-image-mini-wrap-floatright
{
width: 52px;
height: 52px;
text-align: center;
background: #FFFFFF;
border: 1px solid #555555;
padding: 4px;
margin-top: auto;
margin-bottom: auto;
}

.pp-image-mini-wrap,
.pp-image-mini-wrap-floatright
{
width: 27px;
height: 27px;
margin-top: auto;
margin-bottom: auto;
}

.pp-image-thumb-wrap-floatright,
.pp-image-mini-wrap-floatright
{
float:right;
}

.pp-tiny-text
{
color: gray;
font-size: 10px;
}

.pp-mini-content-entry,
.pp-mini-content-entry-noheight,
.pp-mini-entry-noheight-shaded
{
background-color: #F5F9FD;
padding: 6px;
border-bottom: 1px dotted #555555;
clear:both;
width: auto;
height: 60px;
}

.pp-mini-entry-noheight-shaded
{
background-color: #E3DFE7;
}

.pp-mini-content-entry-noheight,
.pp-mini-entry-noheight-shaded
{
height: auto;
}

.pp-tabclear,
.pp-maintitle
{
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0px;
padding: 8px;
}

.pp-tabclear
{
border:0px;
}

.pp-tabon
{
border-width: 1px 1px 0px 1px;
border-style: solid;
padding:8px;
float:left;
width:auto;
margin-top:1px;
font-size:11px;
}

.pp-taboff,
.pp-tabshaded
{
border-width: 1px 1px 0px 1px;
border-style: solid;
padding:8px;
float: left;
width: auto;
margin-top:1px;
font-size:11px;
}

.pp-tabshaded
{
background-image: url(style_images/ip.boardpr/css_pp_tab_shaded.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-position: left bottom;
color: #516795;
border-top: 1px solid #7f9BBC;
border-left: 1px solid #7f9BBC;
border-right: 1px solid #7f9BBC;
}

.pp-tabon a:link,
.pp-tabon a:visited,
.pp-tabon a:active
{
text-decoration:none;
}

.pp-taboff a:link,
.pp-taboff a:visited,
.pp-taboff a:active,
.pp-tabshaded a:link,
.pp-tabshaded a:visited,
.pp-tabshaded a:active
{
text-decoration:none;
}

.pp-tabwrap
{
height: 34px;
margin:0px;
padding:0px;
}



/* @end */

/* Small blog fix */

#myblogset-info .fieldwrap {
background: transparent;
border: 0px;
border-top: 0;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
}


/* GALLERY STYLES */

.gallery_block {
padding: 3px !important;
margin: 0px;
}

.gal_caption {
font-size: 14px;
padding-bottom: 5px;
font-weight: normal;
}

.gal_cat a {
text-decoration: none;
}

.gal_curr {
}

.gal_noncurr {
}

.thumbwrap,
.thumbwrapp,
.fullimagewrap
{
margin: 1px;
background-color: #fff;
border: 1px solid #8e8e8e !important;
}

.thumbwrapp{
border: 2px solid #660707;
}

.fullimagewrap{
background: #F5F9FD;
text-align: center;
margin: 5px 0 5px 0;
padding: 5px;
}

.thumbwrap h4,
.thumbwrapp h4{
background: #DDE6F2;
border: 0 !important;
color: #5176B5;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
margin: 0;
padding: 5px;
}

.thumbwrap p,
.thumbwrapp p{
border-bottom: 0px !important;
margin: 0 !important;
padding: 5px !important;
text-align: left;
}

.thumbwrap p.alt,
.thumbwrapp p.alt{
border-bottom: 0px !important;
margin: 0 !important;
padding: 5px !important;
text-align: left;
}

.thumbwrapp p.pin{
background: #EFDFDF !important;
text-align: center !important;
}

.thumbwrap img.galattach,
.thumbwrapp img.galattach{
background: #FFF url(style_images/ip.boardpr/img_larger.gif) no-repeat bottom right;
border: 1px solid #424242;
margin: 5px;
padding: 2px 2px 10px 2px;
}

/* This is a little hack to fix the
* scrollbar that appears in the emoticon
* pane of the post screen */
#post_screen_hack table tr td {
padding: 0px !important;
}
</style>
<style type='text/css'>
@import url( "http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/style_images/ip.boardpr/folder_editor_images/css_rte.css" );
</style>
</head>
<body>
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<script type="text/javascript">
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var ipb_lang_tpl_q1 = "Please enter a page number to jump to between 1 and";
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var ipb_var_phpext = "php";
var ipb_var_base_url = "http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&";
var ipb_var_image_url = "style_images/ip.boardpr";
var ipb_input_f = "71";
var ipb_input_t = "8358";
var ipb_input_p = "0";
var ipb_var_cookieid = "";
var ipb_var_cookie_domain = "";
var ipb_var_cookie_path = "/";
var ipb_md5_check = "b6feda87feaea781cd0a992eecd4c670";
var ipb_new_msgs = 0;
var use_enhanced_js = 1;
var use_charset = "iso-8859-1";
var ipb_myass_chars_lang = "Not enough characters";
var ajax_load_msg = "Loading Content...";
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</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/ips_ipsclass.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/ipb_global.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/ips_menu.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='style_images/ip.boardpr/folder_js_skin/ips_menu_html.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='cache/lang_cache/en/lang_javascript.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
//<![CDATA[
var ipsclass = new ipsclass();
ipsclass.init();
ipsclass.settings['do_linked_resize'] = parseInt( "1" );
ipsclass.settings['resize_percent'] = parseInt( "50" );
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</script>
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<div id="logostrip"><a href='http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?'><!--ipb.logo.start--><img src='style_images/13_13_umsf_banner_standard.jpg' alt='IPB' style='vertical-align:top' border='0' /><!--ipb.logo.end--></a></div>
<div id="submenu">
<!--ipb.leftlinks.start-->
<div id='submenu_left'>

<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=home"></a>


<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=home">UMSF Portal</a>


<div class='ipb-top-left-link'><a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=boardrules">Rules and Guidelines - Please Read</a></div>

</div>
<!--ipb.leftlinks.end-->
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<div id='submenu_right'>
<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Help">Help</a>
<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Search&amp;f=71" id="ipb-tl-search">Search</a>
<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Members">Members</a>
<a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=calendar">Calendar</a>

<div class='ipb-top-right-link'><a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?autocom=chatpara">Live Chat</a></div>

<div class='popupmenu-new' id='ipb-tl-search_menu' style='display:none;width:210px'>
<form action="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Search&amp;CODE=01" method="post">
<input type='hidden' name='forums' id='gbl-search-forums' value='all' />
<input type="text" size="20" name="keywords" id='ipb-tl-search-box' />
<input class="button" type="image" style='border:0px' src="style_images/ip.boardpr/login-button.gif" />

<br /><input type='checkbox' id='gbl-search-checkbox' value='1' onclick='gbl_check_search_box()' checked='checked' /> Search this forum only?

</form>
<div style='padding:4px'>
<a href='http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Search'>More Search Options</a>
</div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
ipsmenu.register( "ipb-tl-search", 'document.getElementById("ipb-tl-search-box").focus();' );
gbl_check_search_box();
</script>
</div>
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</div>

<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/ips_xmlhttprequest.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/ipb_global_xmlenhanced.js'></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src='jscripts/dom-drag.js'></script>
<div id='get-myassistant' style='display:none;width:400px;text-align:left;'>
<div class="borderwrap">
<div class='maintitle' id='myass-drag' title='Click and hold to drag this window'>
<div style='float:right'><a href='#' onclick='document.getElementById("get-myassistant").style.display="none"'>[X]</a></div>
<div>My Assistant</div>
</div>
<div id='myass-content' style='overflow-x:auto;'></div>
</div>
</div>
<!-- Loading Layer -->
<div id='loading-layer' style='display:none'>
<div id='loading-layer-shadow'>
<div id='loading-layer-inner'>
<img src='style_images/ip.boardpr/loading_anim.gif' border='0' alt='Loading. Please Wait...' />
<span style='font-weight:bold' id='loading-layer-text'>Loading. Please Wait...</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<!-- / Loading Layer -->
<!-- Msg Layer -->
<div id='ipd-msg-wrapper'>
<div id='ipd-msg-title'>
<a href='#' onclick='document.getElementById("ipd-msg-wrapper").style.display="none"; return false;'><img src='style_images/ip.boardpr/close.png' alt='X' title='Close Window' class='ipd' /></a> &nbsp; <strong>Site Message</strong>
</div>
<div id='ipd-msg-inner'><span style='font-weight:bold' id='ipd-msg-text'></span><div class='pp-tiny-text'>(Message will auto close in 2 seconds)</div></div>
</div>
<!-- Msg Layer -->

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I am receiving an incorrect page/post when following a link to a post that is near the bottom of a page: the next page is displayed instead of the one with the referenced post. Here are a couple of examples: <br /><br />- Unmanned Spaceflight.com &gt; Mars &amp; Missions &gt; MSL &gt; MSL Route Map &gt; Post #1634 <a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7442&amp;view=findpost&amp;p=255642" target="_blank">link</a> <br /><br />- Unmanned Spaceflight.com &gt; Mars &amp; Missions &gt; MSL &gt; MSL Route Map &gt; Post #1725 <a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7442&amp;view=findpost&amp;p=256716" target="_blank">link</a> <br /><br />If, however, the post is at or close to the page's top, the correct post is displayed: <br /><br />- Unmanned Spaceflight.com &gt; Mars &amp; Missions &gt; MSL &gt; MSL Route Map &gt; Post #1608 <a href="http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7442&amp;view=findpost&amp;p=254717" target="_blank">link</a> <br /><br />I combed the Forum's Help but could not find an explanation. Examining the post's generated HTML no obvious differences can be seen. Any help is much appreciated. <br /><br />Fernando<br />


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I sometimes access the forum on an Android tablet using Firefox. Starting a few months ago, going to the main page seems to autorefresh constantly, so the only way to use the site is to manually stop the reload and refresh as needed until a valid page is displayed. This doesn't happen if you tell Firefox to use the desktop version of the site.<br /><br />Unfortunately Android Firefox has been so dumbed-down that I can't look at the page source, so my ability to diagnose this is limited.<br /><br />This could easily be a Firefox problem but I haven't seen it on any other site.<br />


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One follow up- on Edge Beta, the website is showing a 'Not secure' / no certificate warning.<br />I don't recall seeing that before, but hadn't really looked either.<br />-edit- also getting the 'Not secure' on 64-bit Chrome &amp; Firefox browsers.<br /><br />One possibility is that some implementations of Ad Blockers and HTTPS preferences can force a loading loop.


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Copy all, and thanks for the reports. Let me see what I can do when I get some free time over the weekend, and thanks again! <img src="style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />


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