Sol 65 and after, Digs in Neverland, Cupboard, Stone Soup, Burn Alive... Options

[belleraphon1]

On topic now....

Really am looking forward to watching the frost develop over time.

Hope that they can eke out enough power to continue to get MET data (which seems to be the forgotten instrument complement, but I am just as fascinated with their data and wish we got more of it. Understand they get temp measurements from three differnet heights along the mast. Love it if they would publish a daily for each.... think in midday your toes would be a lot toastier than your head) well past the time when TEGA AND MECA are done.

Also imaging of the MET mast and the surroundings for as long as power holds. I assume MRO will image as long as the area stays sunlit and assume MRO will image again come sping.

Really COOL. In fact... GROOVIE does cover it!!!

Craig

[Stu]

How long until we see something like this...?



BTW: if anyone else has been wondering what "Winkies" and "Quadlings" - the main rocks in this scene - are named after, apparrently they were two of the tribes of the Land of Oz.

[belleraphon1]

Actually I am hoping for something similar to this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7323592@N07/434469147/

But this will be well past the H2O frost point and into the CO2 ice regime. Assume well past the point of any power reserves on Phoenix. And I assume this will probably be well past the point where much sunlight reaches this latitude.

Craig

[Paul Fjeld]

BTW: if anyone else has been wondering what "Winkies" and "Quadlings" - the main rocks in this scene - are named after, apparrently they were two of the tribes of the Land of Oz.

Thanks! I wondered about that. I'm almost learning as much about fairy-tales and mythology as Mars.

Question: where does "Fiducials" come out of. The modern American financial system Fairy Story?
(No wait... that's fiduciary...)

[01101001]

Question: where does "Fiducials" come out of. The modern American financial system Fairy Story?

Where? An optical microscope diagram? That's where I've seen it: they were test images, or marks on the wheel, maybe the MECA babies text. Wikipedia: Fiducial

In imaging technology, a fiduciary marker or fiducial is an object used in the field of view of an imaging system which appears in the image produced, for use as a point of reference or a measure.

I think both fiducial and fiduciary are related to matters of trust.

[Paul Fjeld]

Well that explains the "SSI Fiducials" taken from SOL 1 through SOL 9 of the same bit of lander and surface. I wondered about those. (It also gave me an excuse for an obscure and lame joke, sadly...)

[Shaka]

Hey, wayyy beyond cool... freakin' COLD! "Frosty the Mirror"
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas!

[JRehling]

the solar arrays are dark, so therefore will be warmer than the surface as they absorb more solar energy.

But all the roadsigns say "Bridges may freeze before main road" or something like that. The surface has physical contact with mass below it, so I'm not sure if the difference in albedo outweighs the factors of thermal inertia.

Moreover, remember the martian regolith is already very dark -- about 15% albedo? Something with 3% albedo doesn't absorb 5 times as much solar energy -- only 1.14 times as much. Moreover, specular surfaces can be surprisingly cool because they actually *do* reflect a lot of sunlight, but you don't see it unless you're in the glint.

[Stu]

More frost...?

[slinted]

I think so Stu! Here's a rough hack at the sol 83 morning mosaic (minus one frame).

Sol 83, 06:07-06:39 R8/RB/R2

[Ant103]

Yes Stu, I confirm .
See this pan I've made (same sol of your picture). We clearly see frost patches on the left, and on the solar pannel, at the middle :


I've also made an animation of the LIDAR (the first pictures taken?) on Sol 82. I'm wondering what are these shinny things into the laser, frost on dust particules?

[Stu]

Awesome work, both of you Frost Hounds... waay ahead of me!

Love this little "frost patch" ( cropped from your image Ant, hope you don't mind...)

[JRehling]

It seems like there's probably not too much in the way of "weather" going on here besides the diurnal and seasonal effects. I would guess that this is a one-way train. If there's frost one sol, there'll be frost -- and slightly more of it -- the next sol. Winter or bust.

[Stu]

I would guess that this is a one-way train. If there's frost one sol, there'll be frost -- and slightly more of it -- the next sol.

Yep. Fun to watch it develop, tho...

[Tman]

I've also made an animation of the LIDAR (the first pictures taken?) on Sol 82. I'm wondering what are these shinny things into the laser, frost on dust particules?

Cooked flies...

Yeah Stu, looks almost like a frozen slop