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High altitude balloon payload, from Sable-3 discussion
djellison
post Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
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We began talkin about a UMSF balloon - and who know what might happen if enough people think about something hard enough, thoroughly enough and long enough.

How's about this as a starting point.
http://vpizza.org/~jmeehan/balloon/ with http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/part101.html as an important regulatory start point (I'm going to look up the UK regs for this as well)

http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/nova1launch.html is also very impressive - all done in the UK

This http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/...video_podc.html is particularly impressive - I like the multiple-cameras slant.

Anyway - thought I'd get a thread going - this is an idea I like too much to let it gather dust in a corner - the one thing that I think would be nice to achieve is self-portraiture of some sort - think Beagle 2's WAM etc....perhaps in a corner of the FOV of one of/the imaging system. What sort of limit's should we set ourselves? 1kg 10x10x20cm? (sort of 2U Cubesat-on-a-diet budget)

Doug
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- djellison   High altitude balloon payload   Sep 26 2007, 11:16 PM
- - djellison   Tonight I'll try and do a little vodcast thing...   Oct 12 2007, 07:14 AM
- - AndyG   Can't beat a few Ents at the end of the garden...   Oct 12 2007, 12:38 PM
- - djellison   Well - the course remains once you're stopped ...   Oct 12 2007, 12:42 PM
|- - marsbug   The only contribution I've got to make to this...   Oct 12 2007, 12:51 PM
- - nprev   Yes...Ad astra per scientiam, Doug! ...and ple...   Oct 12 2007, 01:55 PM
- - djellison   Some more bits and pieces have arrived - but there...   Oct 14 2007, 11:32 PM
- - elakdawalla   Time to start a naming contest yet? To make thin...   Oct 14 2007, 11:41 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 15 2007, 12:41 A...   Oct 15 2007, 11:09 AM
- - lyford   elakdawalla will doug let us really do haiku named...   Oct 15 2007, 04:27 AM
- - djellison   Just popped home - the mirrors have arrived - that...   Oct 15 2007, 01:03 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 15 2007, 02:03 PM)...   Oct 15 2007, 08:06 PM
- - djellison   PICAXE AHOY Got a few relays, and a buzzer, and ...   Oct 15 2007, 05:23 PM
- - djellison   IT WORKS I did a simple CODEmain: high 0 ...   Oct 15 2007, 07:43 PM
- - djellison   Mr & Mrs Latex.   Oct 15 2007, 09:26 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   I'm hoping that somewhere obvious on it will b...   Oct 15 2007, 09:39 PM
- - djellison   One of the payloads that they let aloft from Cambr...   Oct 15 2007, 09:58 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Better include Bjorn's contact info, just in c...   Oct 15 2007, 10:03 PM
- - djellison   Just contacted the CAA ( UK's version of the F...   Oct 15 2007, 10:24 PM
- - djellison   Video Update 1 - Envelope, Parachute, Gondola ht...   Oct 19 2007, 07:39 AM
- - mchan   Good show! All you need is a whiteboard that ...   Oct 19 2007, 08:21 AM
- - AndyG   A short piece in the Guardian newspaper this week ...   Oct 19 2007, 09:34 AM
- - jamescanvin   Good show Doug. Parafoils - Genius! Coming ...   Oct 19 2007, 10:11 AM
|- - ustrax   Man...you need an haircut...   Oct 19 2007, 10:33 AM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Oct 19 2007, 11:11 A...   Oct 19 2007, 01:14 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Oct 19 2007, 11:11 A...   Oct 19 2007, 01:51 PM
|- - AndyG   I thought the parafoil's quote came from James...   Oct 19 2007, 02:06 PM
- - djellison   You need a shave   Oct 19 2007, 11:28 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 19 2007, 12:28 PM)...   Oct 19 2007, 11:54 AM
- - ugordan   Hahahah... buuuuurn!   Oct 19 2007, 11:52 AM
- - jamescanvin   Actually my comment did come from Doug talking abo...   Oct 19 2007, 02:34 PM
- - djellison   Gizmo may well be involved in the final part of th...   Oct 19 2007, 04:11 PM
- - lyford   I am assuming that since this is UMSF we don't...   Oct 19 2007, 06:19 PM
- - djellison   Part the Third http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U0IJM...   Oct 19 2007, 11:00 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Does the data from the GPS device include ALTITUDE...   Oct 20 2007, 01:56 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 20 2007, 02:56 A...   Oct 20 2007, 07:49 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 19 2007, 11:49 PM)...   Oct 20 2007, 03:20 PM
- - nprev   It should. Most standard GPS devices output data i...   Oct 20 2007, 03:16 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 19 2007, 07:16 PM) How...   Oct 20 2007, 06:30 AM
- - nprev   It's too bad that there's not a compact di...   Oct 20 2007, 01:08 PM
|- - RJG   I have no specific knowledge of lightweight DGPS k...   Oct 20 2007, 01:26 PM
- - nprev   Ah! Did not consider active antennas, just pas...   Oct 20 2007, 02:02 PM
- - djellison   If I can log temp, pres and GPS with a second Pica...   Oct 20 2007, 03:39 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 20 2007, 07:39 AM)...   Oct 20 2007, 03:45 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 20 2007, 03:45 P...   Oct 21 2007, 12:58 PM
- - hendric   Doug, For a test flight, have you considered a k...   Oct 23 2007, 07:08 PM
- - djellison   http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+...produ...   Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM
- - hendric   Closest thing I could find is the 3.1 MP version o...   Oct 25 2007, 08:52 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (hendric @ Oct 25 2007, 03:52 PM) C...   Dec 21 2007, 10:47 PM
- - djellison   The 1.3 MP VistaQuest is what the GMC is. Doug   Oct 25 2007, 09:30 PM
- - paxdan   High ALtitude Object - HALO 30k balloon. This guy...   Oct 27 2007, 08:33 AM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 28 2007, 07:16 AM
- - djellison   I don't think what you describe would work. T...   Oct 28 2007, 08:41 AM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 29 2007, 07:17 AM
- - djellison   Yup - for one of those utterly enormous balloons t...   Oct 29 2007, 08:13 AM
- - rlorenz   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 26 2007, 07:16 PM)...   Nov 3 2007, 01:50 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Nov 3 2007, 01:50 PM) , ...   Nov 3 2007, 07:49 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 3 2007, 02:49 PM) ...   Nov 4 2007, 12:29 PM
- - jamescanvin   I know Ralph was trying to plug non-imaging data b...   Nov 5 2007, 09:23 AM
- - djellison   That's quite a heavy and data-expensive way of...   Nov 5 2007, 10:27 AM
- - djellison   I have a Picaxe data logger working - with Temp, L...   Nov 10 2007, 12:19 AM
- - djellison   An overnight run. Blue line is the LDR - you can ...   Nov 10 2007, 10:45 AM
- - djellison   Just an update - things have been slow, real life ...   Nov 28 2007, 02:45 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 28 2007, 09:45 AM)...   Dec 16 2007, 04:56 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Dec 16 2007, 08:56 AM) A...   Dec 16 2007, 07:39 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 16 2007, 02:39 PM) An...   Dec 18 2007, 12:37 AM
|- - lyford   Woo hoo! Between AGU proceedings and the US D...   Dec 18 2007, 01:38 AM
- - James Sorenson   I have been wanting to build my own balloon, and I...   Jan 5 2008, 02:49 AM
|- - grahamh   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jan 5 2008, 02:49...   Jan 9 2008, 05:10 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (grahamh @ Jan 9 2008, 05:10 PM) Ho...   Jan 10 2008, 03:51 PM
|- - grahamh   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 10 2008, 03:51 P...   Jan 11 2008, 12:25 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (grahamh @ Jan 11 2008, 12:25 PM) p...   Jan 11 2008, 12:29 PM
|- - grahamh   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 11 2008, 12:29 PM)...   Jan 11 2008, 12:41 PM
|- - marsbug   I'm in the UK, manchester to be exact, and I...   Jan 11 2008, 12:59 PM
- - James Sorenson   I had not yet read till now the technical specific...   Jan 10 2008, 12:16 PM
- - jamescanvin   I'm certainly still very interested in seeing ...   Jan 11 2008, 03:47 PM
- - djellison   Just so no one thinks I've totally forgotten a...   Feb 10 2008, 06:58 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 10 2008, 07:58 PM)...   Apr 24 2008, 09:53 PM
- - Vladimir R   Can someone explain me (on easy way) why 'burs...   Feb 24 2008, 04:31 AM
- - djellison   The balloon grows as the atmospheric pressure outs...   Feb 24 2008, 09:59 AM
|- - Vladimir R   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 24 2008, 10:59 AM)...   Feb 26 2008, 07:17 AM
|- - helvick   Local gravity at 33km altitude is less than it is ...   Feb 26 2008, 08:42 AM
- - djellison   The difference in gravity is negligible. The radi...   Feb 26 2008, 08:35 AM
|- - Vladimir R   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 26 2008, 09:35 AM)...   Feb 27 2008, 02:46 AM
- - centsworth_II   I'm no expert, but it looks like there is a mi...   Feb 26 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Feb 26 2008, 03:58...   Feb 26 2008, 04:22 PM
|- - Vladimir R   WIKIPEDIA QUOTE Altitude Gravity decreases with...   Feb 27 2008, 02:31 AM
|- - nprev   The key to understanding this is free-fall, Vladim...   Feb 27 2008, 03:27 AM
- - dvandorn   Free fall is the key way of describing it. A sate...   Feb 27 2008, 03:52 AM
|- - Vladimir R   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 27 2008, 04:52 AM) ...   Feb 27 2008, 04:07 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Vladimir R @ Feb 26 2008, 11:07 PM...   Feb 27 2008, 07:06 AM
|- - Juramike   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Feb 27 2008, 03:06...   Feb 27 2008, 07:38 AM
|- - RJG   There's a transatlantic balloon attempt underw...   Apr 6 2008, 09:14 AM
- - tfisher   Look on the bright side for that spirit of knoxvil...   Apr 6 2008, 12:40 PM
- - Juramike   (OMG, it's coming right for me! ) It is...   Apr 6 2008, 07:02 PM
- - remcook   I think the 967 number is meters, it says 3172 ft ...   Apr 6 2008, 08:11 PM
- - djellison   And...looking at the imagery ( which is very cool ...   Apr 24 2008, 10:36 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 24 2008, 11:36 PM)...   Apr 25 2008, 08:59 AM
- - jamescanvin   Hmm. I think the lesson I'm taking away from...   Apr 25 2008, 09:00 AM
- - djellison   To be fair - they really did set up that camera to...   Apr 25 2008, 09:09 AM
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