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Posted by: mars loon Nov 14 2005, 04:57 AM

“Spirit” Cover on Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine: 14 November 2005

Rocky Martian High: Spirit Takes the Summit

“Spirit” at the Summit of Husband Hill appears as the Cover image for the 14 November 2005 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine. The highly detailed 6 page cover package, titled "Rocky Martian High", describes the dramatic flight operations of the JPL/Cornell team as Spirit completed work on a
Martian mountaintop: see www.aviationweek.com. The cover photo of Spirit and 2 additional pictures inside (full widescreen view and hazcam of Hillary rock outcrop), were derived by an international team of Mars enthusiasts indicating how outside analysts can use the raw imagery data from the rovers available to everyone.

Forum Members picture credit:

Marco Di Lorenzo (dilo), Doug Ellison (djellison), Bernhard Braun (nirgal) and Kenneth Kremer (mars loon)

View at this link:

www.aviationweek.com

Posted by: CosmicRocker Nov 14 2005, 06:03 AM

...Long overdue recognition...
smile.gif
Congratulations to all of you.

Posted by: mike Nov 14 2005, 06:06 AM

Very nicely done.

Posted by: dilo Nov 14 2005, 07:22 AM

Hi all, this is a little explaination about the AWST cover for the 14 Nov 2005 issue.

reprinted with permission of Aviation Week
The image is the result of patient, coordinated work from Doug (djellison), Bernhard (Nirgal), Ken (mars loon) and myself.
First inspiration was from the http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=1480&view=findpost&p=22255 panorama, a stitch posted by me in this Forum and then colorized by Bernhard.
The original picture is based on 9 NavCam images taken on Sol618, close to the rock outcrop nicknamed "Hillary" at the summit of Husband Hill.
Assembly was initially done with Autostitch and captured the attention of many people due also to the many "hardware" details visible in the foreground.
The portion you are seeng here is only a small part of the complete panorama, re-created by Doug (as he will explain in another post).

Posted by: Myran Nov 14 2005, 08:31 AM

Aviation week - even I know that is one well regarded quality publication.
So congratulations all four of you!

WBR
Myran

Posted by: djellison Nov 14 2005, 09:07 AM

Unfortunately, I dont have a the words to express the joy of the past few weeks waiting for this - but it's been awesome, particularly with Ken, Bernhard and Marco - all working as a team

It's the 'cheekiest' Navcam mosaic I've seen done - using imagery from Left and Right cameras to 'patch up' where the perspective caused the LGA to 'rip' half way down, but the end result is something we're all proud of.

Cool isnt it smile.gif

Doug

Posted by: Nirgal Nov 14 2005, 09:42 AM

[quote=djellison,Nov 14 2005, 11:07 AM]
Unfortunately, I dont have a the words to express the joy of the past few weeks waiting for this - but it's been awesome, particularly with Ken, Bernhard and Marco - all working as a team

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Yeah ! it has been truely an example of what the concerted internatioanl effort of
us forum members can achieve ;-)

smile.gif biggrin.gif cool.gif wink.gif

Following is another image (exclusively colorized for the Aviation Week's
story on the Hillary campaign ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/user73289/misc/spirit_f18256a_med.jpg

... So if anyone wondered why I havn't posted that much recently,...
I was just too busy with the Aviation Week Project wink.gif

Fortunately, as a "spin-off" result of this project there are several other images,
(also made for the Aviation Week but not chosen for the final article because of space limitations)
Among them a complement "celebration pan" of Opportunity at Erebus
and other panoramas and colorizations that Marco and I will publish here
in future forum postings ...

:-)

Posted by: Tman Nov 14 2005, 10:01 AM

Yeah that's cool! smile.gif

Very nice work! Glad to see it in a print media.

Posted by: Nix Nov 14 2005, 10:19 AM

Awesome work guys, Doug, the LGA looks, well, perfect ohmy.gif

What a great example of coöperation for the media!

Nico smile.gif

Posted by: Bill Harris Nov 14 2005, 10:46 AM

Wonderful. It's fantastic that "amateurs" have made to to the cover of a national publication. That cover image has been my Windows wallpaper for several weeks.

Hopefully you all did it for $$ and not "photo credit"; freebies set a bad precedent for the imaging community.

--Bill

Posted by: Tman Nov 14 2005, 02:02 PM

QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 14 2005, 11:07 AM)
It's the 'cheekiest' Navcam mosaic I've seen done - using imagery from Left and Right cameras to 'patch up' where the perspective caused the LGA to 'rip' half way down, but the end result is something we're all proud of.

That's really cheeky biggrin.gif Never done so far. I guess it was also a compromise between horizon and Spirit's left and right solar panels (because of warped shape).

When can you show these pictures and pans here too? You have to wait some time I guess.

Posted by: Tesheiner Nov 14 2005, 02:43 PM

Congratulations to all of you.

Well done!

Posted by: tedstryk Nov 14 2005, 02:46 PM

I second that - Congratulations!

Posted by: chris Nov 14 2005, 02:47 PM

Fantastic work. Much kudos to all of you. It makes me, once again, very pleased to be part of this community.

Chris

Posted by: aldo12xu Nov 14 2005, 03:46 PM

Yes, yes, congratulations all around! A pat on the shoulder, firm handshake and a round of drinks (if I could)!!

That cover image is a real teeezer wink.gif When can we see more? I don't think any of the bookstores here carry Aviation Week.

Posted by: Nix Nov 14 2005, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (Tman @ Nov 14 2005, 04:02 PM)
When can you show these pictures and pans here too? You have to wait some time I guess.
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Do we have to wait long? I want to put it on my wall. mad.gif

Nico biggrin.gif

Posted by: helvick Nov 14 2005, 04:10 PM

Stunning achievement guys.

Posted by: odave Nov 14 2005, 04:11 PM

Sweet! This certainly deserves a round of Mars Bars!

dilo -

djellison -

nirgal -

mars loon -


Edit: Ugh, that first attempt looked like crap!! Made the images smaller.

Posted by: David Nov 14 2005, 05:12 PM

Wow. That is so cool. laugh.gif

Posted by: mars loon Nov 14 2005, 05:20 PM

Everyone,

What an indescrible joy it has been to work as an international team on a project we all love so dearly. A labor of love over many long nights and weekends.

The power of teamwork is exemplified by my awesome friends Marco, Doug and Bernhard !!!!

We present this to honor the outstanding achievements of the Mars Exploration Rover Team led by the brilliant Principal Investigator Steve Squyres of Cornell University as "Spirit" expanded the envelope in the quest for Science at the Summit of Husband Hill.

check this out on the Aviation Week Magazine free site and view the enlarged pdf

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/11145p1.xml

its time to update your wallpaper

and kudos Doug for creating this forum which brought us all together in a series of incredible incidents !!!!!

ken

Posted by: dilo Nov 14 2005, 08:59 PM

Yes, Ken, it was a beautiful cooperation, especially if you consider that was done by people that never meet phisically each other!
This brings me thinking what an incredible privilege we have to live in the computers and Internet epoch, our fathers didn't imagine this amazing possibility to capture images taken by a robot on Mars only few hours ago, elaborate them and share our results inside a virtual meeting room (this great forum), always populated by wonderful, talented and educated people!
I want to express my deep gratitude to all members, especially the ones which stimulated me from the beginning, in order to obtain ever improving results. Masters like Tman, Nico, Phil, Michael and many many others, without you this achievement wouldn't be possible, thrust me! wink.gif
Hope this is only the beginning, meanwhile I would like to post another version of Sol618 panorama, not published on AWST and very close to the original one posted in this Forum; Bernhard did a great colorization on it and I worked a lot to improve initial result... frankly speaking, I prefere this one and hope someone will choose this as PC wallpaper!

Thanks to everyone, my friends!
Marco


EDIT: added full image credits

Posted by: john_s Nov 14 2005, 09:15 PM

Great work- nice to see the remarkable talents on this forum get some wider exposure. Congratulations!

Posted by: Nirgal Nov 14 2005, 09:22 PM

QUOTE (dilo @ Nov 14 2005, 10:59 PM)
Yes, Ken, it was a beautiful cooperation, especially if you consider that was done by people that never meet phisically each other!
This brings me thinking what an incredible privilege we have to live in the computers and Internet epoch, our fathers didn't imagine this amazing possibility to capture images taken by a robot on Mars only few hours ago, elaborate them and share our results inside a virtual meeting room (this great forum), always populated by wonderful, talented and educated people!
I want to express my deep gratitude to all members, especially the ones which stimulated me from the beginning, in order to obtain ever improving results. Masters like Tman, Nico, Phil, Michael and many many others, without you this achievement wouldn't be possible, thrust me!  wink.gif
...
Thanks to everyone, my friends!
Marco
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Thank you Marco ! I too was thinking of posting something similar ... but you have found *exactly* the right words to express all our feelings about this ...
Nothing more to add , except many happy Smilies:

smile.gif biggrin.gif cool.gif wink.gif rolleyes.gif ...

... one for each forum member ;-)

Bernhard (Nirgal)

Posted by: GregM Nov 15 2005, 04:17 AM

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Posted by: CosmicRocker Nov 15 2005, 05:27 AM

GregM: Thanks for adding that perspective. I, for one, wouldn't have appreciated that otherwise.

I find myself looking at that image over and over again, and wondering...How did they do that? It has quite a nice balance of the near and the far. Likewise with the colors.

I'd sure like to hear more about the difficulties encountered in its creation, and how they were overcome.

Posted by: Joffan Nov 15 2005, 06:06 AM

Fantastic work boys - as usual, I'm in awe of the accumulated skill of this board. It's unusual enough that talent like you have consistently shown for the enthusiasts here get wider recognition, let alone on this level. Brilliant!

biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif mars.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: mchan Nov 15 2005, 07:41 AM

Adding my congratulations.

The Front Page shows 30 visitors just now, while usually it has been around 5 - 10 at this time. I would guess the AvWeek cover has brought this forum to a much wider audience.

Posted by: djellison Nov 15 2005, 08:34 AM

QUOTE (mchan @ Nov 15 2005, 07:41 AM)
Adding my congratulations.

The Front Page shows 30 visitors just now, while usually it has been around 5 - 10 at this time.  I would guess the AvWeek cover has brought this forum to a much wider audience.
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Well, the site doesnt actually get mentioned (at least I dont think it does) - but Nov 11th was the busiest day in the sites history.

I'm not a big fan of K.C. - but the 'big' image also made it to..
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1075

smile.gif

Doug

Posted by: Tman Nov 15 2005, 09:20 AM

QUOTE (GregM @ Nov 15 2005, 06:17 AM)
For those of you not entirely familiar with AW&ST, might I take the liberty of letting you in on a little background.


Thanks Greg, it seems they abide by their tradition wink.gif and discover the specialties on the internet as well.

Posted by: edstrick Nov 15 2005, 09:23 AM

Congrats all around to the unindited co-conspirators!

Posted by: Tman Nov 15 2005, 11:44 AM

Hey...

How did you guys dared the impossible biggrin.gif (... got you this opportunity)? Was it a request directly from AW&ST?

Posted by: Bill Harris Nov 15 2005, 01:27 PM

I don't know if AW&ST is available on newstands, I don't recall seeing it. Is it available as reprints (or single issues)? If not, I wonder if arrangements could be made for UMSF members to obtain a copy?

--Bill

Posted by: mars loon Nov 15 2005, 02:03 PM

QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Nov 15 2005, 01:27 PM)
I don't know if AW&ST is available on newstands, I don't recall seeing it.  Is it available as reprints (or single issues)?  If not, I wonder if arrangements could be made for UMSF members to obtain a copy?

--Bill
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It is hard to find on newsstands, but you may try contacting them via AvWeek website or call to perhaps buy one. If desired, do so quickly before they are out of print. Cover price is $6.

Also, almost every public library in the US has a subscription. Go check it out !!

Got mine in the mail and its stunning. You will love the magazine layout and reproduction. Totally different from the online version.

Also, be sure to read Craigs much longer Mars Rover article from 1 year ago in Nov 2004. Titled "The Real Martians". A must have with the "Lion King Panorama" from Cornell on the cover.

ken

Posted by: Harder Nov 15 2005, 02:31 PM

Congrats for this outstanding achievement.
If I may repeat something from an earlier post (bad, bad habit, but just this once..) my ideal would be that the testbed-rover will find its final place one day in the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum with your many terrific pans in a multimedia display behind it.

Peter

Posted by: mars loon Nov 15 2005, 05:01 PM

More on availability of Aviation Week

--Aviation Week & Space Technology is not sold on news stands. It is a subscriber only publication with subscribers in 180 countries. But anyone can order individual copies by calling this toll free number: 800-525-5003.

Just tell them you would like to order the Nov. 14, 2005 issue of Aviation Week.

Posted by: Nix Nov 15 2005, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (mars loon @ Nov 15 2005, 04:03 PM)
Also,  be sure to read Craigs much longer Mars Rover article from 1 year ago in Nov 2004.  Titled  "The Real Martians".  A must have with the "Lion King Panorama" from Cornell on the cover.

ken
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And the September 12 '05 issue tongue.gif Article 'King of the Hill' by forum member Michael A. Dornheim.

Nico

Posted by: mars loon Nov 15 2005, 05:34 PM

QUOTE (NIX @ Nov 15 2005, 05:21 PM)
And the September 12 '05 issue tongue.gif   Article 'King of the Hill' by forum member Michael A. Dornheim.

Nico
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Nico,

That is one fantastic issue, 2 outstanding stories on space exploration. A collectors edition for sure

your image in that issue, highlighting the crater rims, was incredibly beautiful and an inspiration

and Craig Covault's stunning cover package on the Space Shuttle Return to Flight

ken

Posted by: Nix Nov 15 2005, 06:43 PM

I like the fact it's the same magazine. The same people, from the same forum.

Hopefully more teamwork will follow. There's plenty of data blink.gif

Go UMSF (I'm starting to sound like a cheerleader, I know)

Nico smile.gif

Posted by: ustrax Nov 16 2005, 02:43 PM

I didn't know anything on this!!!
blink.gif
Only today visiting the yellow forum Ive read something about it...
It was almost like seing my elder brothers graduate and leaving home...
I'm emotional now...
I love you guys!
A LOT!
biggrin.gif

Posted by: dilo Nov 16 2005, 08:52 PM

Thanks, Ustrax! I want to assure you that we will firmly remain in the forum (we don't leave) and that the cover/article privilege should be spread among all Forum members: as already explained, it would have been impossible without continuous suggestions and encouragement from all you friends (and especially without the MMB tool!!!) wink.gif

PS: what is the "yellow forum"?

Posted by: Tesheiner Nov 16 2005, 09:20 PM

> PS: what is the "yellow forum"?



wink.gif

Posted by: Nirgal Nov 16 2005, 09:37 PM

ok, here is the full version of the
colorized "Hillary IDD work" Hazcam image that has also been
published in the Aviation Week as an inside-the-article illustration for
Craig's "Everest / Hillary" Story

http://mitglied.lycos.de/user73289/misc/spirit_f18256a.jpg

(click for full resolution ...)

Posted by: Tman Nov 16 2005, 10:30 PM

Thanks Bernhard, its a (extra) beauty! I guess it took a lot of time and you tried hard with it.

Peter smile.gif

Posted by: jvandriel Nov 17 2005, 11:59 AM

Guys,

I just recieved Aviation Week & Space technology with Spirit on the front cover and a 6 page story of Spirit on the summit of Husband Hill with great images.

Congratulations to dilo, djellison, nirgal and mars loon for their cooperation and great images.

At last the recognition for "amateurs" outside the Rover team.

But let us not forget the Rover team who made this possible by publishing all the images made on Mars.

And the next story in AW&ST, "Opportunity navigating around Erebus". smile.gif

jvandriel

Posted by: Gonzz Nov 17 2005, 01:37 PM

What I love about these images is that little bit of artistic liberty that allows them to transcend reality while remaining true to it.

It's a bit like the National Geographic magazine photographer that while photographing nature will employ all kinds of lens filters and special films to capture a truly unique image. Is it completely true to reality, well, no, but is it a lie, again no, just enhanced reality, that little bit extra contrast and colour that elicits from us a powerful and resonant emotional response.

And while NASA, as a science agency, has the responsibility to provide us with the most accurate images they are able to based on the available data, you guys here are not under so heavy restraints, and while you too seek to see mars as it is, you present it to us not in dull matt paper but in super glossy superior grade magazine paper stock.

You're our very own National Geographic photographers on Mars, using your photographic mastery to enchant us with beautiful views from another world.

And while I whole heartedly thank NASA for allowing my daily Mars fix, I whole heartedly thank the forum members for making it (even more) amazing.

Posted by: vikingmars Nov 17 2005, 02:47 PM

biggrin.gif I just received AWST yesterday at home.
CONGRATULATIONS to Doug, Dilo, Nirgal and Mars loon... !
GREAT, GREAT work !

Posted by: paxdan Nov 17 2005, 03:15 PM

Kudos all round. Great job guys. biggrin.gif

Posted by: dilo Nov 17 2005, 10:43 PM

Gonzz, your words are so nice, I absolutely agree!
(and thanks to all, again)

Posted by: mars loon Nov 18 2005, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (Gonzz @ Nov 17 2005, 01:37 PM)
What I love about these images is that little bit of artistic liberty that allows them to transcend reality while remaining true to it.

It's a bit like the National Geographic magazine photographer that while photographing nature will employ all kinds of lens filters and special films to capture a truly unique image. Is it completely true to reality, well, no, but is it a lie, again no, just enhanced reality, that little bit extra contrast and colour that elicits from us a powerful and resonant emotional response.

And while NASA, as a science agency, has the responsibility to provide us with the most accurate images they are able to based on the available data, you guys here are not under so heavy restraints, and while you too seek to see mars as it is, you present it to us not in dull matt paper but in super glossy superior grade magazine paper stock.

You're our very own National Geographic photographers on Mars, using your photographic mastery to enchant us with beautiful views from another world.

And while I whole heartedly thank NASA for allowing my daily Mars fix, I whole heartedly thank the forum members for making it (even more) amazing.
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Gonzz/All

Thank you for the insightful commentary and the generous compliments which goes first and foremost to all on the NASA/JPL/Cornell Mars Exploration Rover Team

And thanks to Doug and the forum members for continuing inspiration and sound input

To address you excellent point, please read this excerpt from p. 50 of Craig’s cover package for Aviation Week and Space Technology which includes a quote from Doug

ken

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Reprinted by permission of Aviation Week and Space Technology /Craig Covault

14 Nov 2005

"Among the images taken at the summit is a stunning mosaic of monochromatic rover Navcam images, colorized by outside analysts using JPL/Cornell Pancam Imagery (see www. aviationnow.com). This melding of Navcam and Pancam data is artistically stunning, while not fully scientifically calibrated, says Doug Ellison of Leicester, England, who helped lead the work. It reveals Spirit, amazingly free of dust, sitting atop the rounded crest of the mountain, with views down the slopes to the Gusev crater floor below (see cover and pp. 48-49).

In the picture, rover tracks "jog" by the dark Hillary outcrop that Spirit first passed, then revisited. It was then driven up the slope under the outcrop so instruments on the rover's arm could reach the windblown, dust-free side of the feature. Spirit is now heading down the back side of the range after traveling for most of two years and more than 3 mi. across the floor of Gusev to reach the hills".
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Posted by: Gonzz Nov 18 2005, 06:22 PM

Artistically stunning indeed!

If one thinks of art as a fusion between image and emotion I think that's what we sense from these images, the way we would feel if we were actually standing there, and the way that emotion would influence the way we perceived the view ahead.

Or in other words, I'm not sure if that image portrays what I would see if I was standing there, but I think it portrays the way I would remember it. Memories from Mars? Postcards smile.gif

Posted by: Nirgal Nov 18 2005, 10:11 PM

Hi Gonzz,

thank you so much for the appreciation of our work !

I simply lack the words to express how overwhelmed I am by your beautifully put words that so exactly to the point express all the feelings that have ever motivated my fascination and passion with space image processing ...

In german I would say "du sprichst mir aus der Seele" ... meaning "you speak just from my Soul"

smile.gif

Posted by: Gonzz Nov 19 2005, 08:25 PM

smile.gif

Posted by: slinted Nov 28 2005, 09:09 AM

Just noticed this spectacular image was featured on APOD!

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051128.html

Congratulations to all involved!

Posted by: Enrique Bunbury Nov 28 2005, 09:48 AM

The image is incredible.

GREAT WORK!!! blink.gif

Posted by: mars loon Nov 28 2005, 10:04 AM

QUOTE (Enrique Bunbury @ Nov 28 2005, 09:48 AM)
The image is incredible.

GREAT WORK!!!  blink.gif
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Thank you. I submitted it to APOD for consideration and I guess they liked it

Posted by: Bob Shaw Nov 29 2005, 02:37 PM

Congratulations to all on the APOD front!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: general Dec 1 2005, 08:55 PM

Spirit-on-top-of-Husband-Hill-picture in leading Belgian newspaper "De Standaard" today:

 

Posted by: djellison Dec 1 2005, 08:57 PM

Wow - Is there any way you could get more copies of that? I'd be happy to pay for postage etc if you could get 3 copies sorted for me ohmy.gif

Doug

Posted by: general Dec 1 2005, 09:14 PM

I'll try to get more copies tomorrow (it's too late now) - but I'm not sure if they sell newspapers from the day before laugh.gif .
If not, you can have my copy. smile.gif

Posted by: dilo Dec 1 2005, 09:53 PM

WOW, general, thanks for the highlight!
I tried to look at the online edition (http://www.standaard.be/Nieuws/Wetenschap/) but no mention of the image sad.gif

Posted by: Nix Dec 1 2005, 10:06 PM

A Belgian newspaper of all things. tongue.gif I'll manage a few copies I think.

Will check asap.

Nico

Posted by: Gonzz Dec 1 2005, 10:12 PM

If you can't get any copies from the stores, and if you live anywhere close to the newspaper's head office, they will probably have some copies there

born out of an international forum, the image seems now to be travelling the world! smile.gif

Posted by: helvick Dec 1 2005, 10:18 PM

I sincerely hope they credited you folks.

Posted by: mars loon Dec 2 2005, 02:20 AM

QUOTE (NIX @ Dec 1 2005, 10:06 PM)
A Belgian newspaper of all things. tongue.gif  I'll manage a few copies I think.

Will check asap.

Nico
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Hi Nico, All

Wow, Thats our submision to APOD from Monday

General, thank you for posting so clearly

I would also really love an original or copy of that page if possible and will also pay postage.

please contact me at

ken@princetonastronomy.org

thank you

ken

Posted by: dilo Dec 2 2005, 06:45 AM

QUOTE (helvick @ Dec 1 2005, 10:18 PM)
I sincerely hope they credited you folks.
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It seems they give a generic credit to Nasa only... sad.gif

Posted by: Nix Dec 2 2005, 08:48 AM

Looks like it wouldn't be a bad idea if I made a call to the paper.

Nico.

Posted by: Nix Dec 2 2005, 03:31 PM

10 copies just confirmed.

So I guess that's 3-4 for Doug, 1 for me and 5-6 left for; Marco (dilo), Bernhard (nirgal) and Kenneth (mars loon).

Nico smile.gif

Posted by: djellison Dec 2 2005, 03:37 PM

You're a legend smile.gif

Posted by: Nix Dec 2 2005, 06:04 PM

like the muscles from Brussels? biggrin.gif

Posted by: mars loon Dec 2 2005, 07:31 PM

QUOTE (NIX @ Dec 2 2005, 06:04 PM)
10 copies just confirmed.

So I guess that's 3-4 for Doug, 1 for me and 5-6 left for; Marco (dilo), Bernhard (nirgal) and Kenneth (mars loon).

like the muscles from Brussels? biggrin.gif
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you certainly know how to walk and run on Mars.

looks like its in color too?

thank you

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 2 2005, 11:50 PM

QUOTE (general @ Dec 1 2005, 09:55 PM)
Spirit-on-top-of-Husband-Hill-picture in leading Belgian newspaper "De Standaard" today:
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*And* an article about Hayabusa meeting the bodemmonster (presumably a relative of the Great Galactic Ghoul) on planetoide onzeker!

That explains *everything*!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: general Dec 3 2005, 08:47 AM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 3 2005, 12:50 AM)
*And* an article about Hayabusa meeting the bodemmonster (presumably a relative of the Great Galactic Ghoul) on planetoide onzeker!

That explains *everything*!

Bob Shaw
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Bob,

I think you should ask Santa Claus for a good dictionary laugh.gif

"Return Hayabusa with asteroid soil sample uncertain" cool.gif



P.S. : I was unable to get any more copies of the newspaper. sad.gif
So I'm pleased to see Nico got some. smile.gif

Posted by: DEChengst Dec 3 2005, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (general @ Dec 3 2005, 09:47 AM)
I think you should ask Santa Claus for a good dictionary  laugh.gif
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Or wait until I come along:

The caption under the photo says:

Self portrait

The Mars rover Spirit made this self portait on top of the hill "Husband Hill" on Mars. The image has been assembled from several seperate images using a computer. The horizon appears to be round because of the wide angel perspective. Of Spirit itself it are mostly the solarcells that can be seen.

Article about Hayabusa:

Return Hayabusa with soil sample from astroid is unsure.

Spaceflight

The probe that took a sample of an astroid perhaps can't return to Earth.

The mission of the Japanese unmanned space probe Hayabusa to astroid Itokawa seems to be a string of defects and technical malfunctions. (De Standaard 24 November). But despite the dificulties the craft succeeded in achieving the most important goal of the mission: It took a soil from an astroid for the first time. At the moment however it's unsure if the precious cargo can be returned to Earth, because the probe is suffering from engine troubles. As the probe ascended from the astroid's surface last Saturday, after it collected the soil sample, a leak ocurred in one of it's two the engines. As this happend both engines were shutdown and the onboard computer put the probe in a "safe mode", in which as much systems as possible are shutdown. However, this lead to Hayabusa being unable to control it's attitude in space and the probe began to tumble. This makes communicating with Earth difficult because the antenna can't be pointed anymore. Tuesday the flightcontrollers succeeded in restoring communications with the probe, but they didn't succeed in restoring the probe's orientation. To do that they counted on the non leaking engine, but for unkown reason it didn't operate. Assuming that at least one of the engine is working Hayabusa can only return to Earth after the orientation has been restored. Yesterday the flightcontrollers were still trying to regain control of the probe. Hayabusa has to start the return journey early December the latest. Otherwise it will have to wait another three years before the Earth and the astroid are in the right position again, and it's quite unsure if the probe will last that long.

Posted by: dilo Dec 3 2005, 10:46 PM

Thank you very much, DEChengst!

QUOTE (DEChengst @ Dec 3 2005, 10:29 PM)
The image has been assembled from several seperate images using a computer.


Hey, considering also other processing operations, we used at least 3 computers! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 3 2005, 11:50 PM

QUOTE (general @ Dec 3 2005, 09:47 AM)
Bob,

I think you should ask Santa Claus for a good dictionary  laugh.gif

"Return Hayabusa with asteroid soil sample uncertain"  cool.gif
P.S. : I was unable to get any more copies of the newspaper.  sad.gif
So I'm pleased to see Nico got some.  smile.gif
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But I *like* the idea of the bodemmonster being thye Great Galactic Ghoul's second cousin!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: dvandorn Dec 5 2005, 09:35 AM

Don't look now, guys, but your image, as reprinted at APOD, made Opportunity jealous! Take a look at her http://www.livejournal.com/users/opportunitygrrl/.

Of course, Oppy does get jealous of her sister... there's a good amount of sibling rivalry going on there... smile.gif

-the other Doug

Posted by: mars loon Dec 6 2005, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2005, 09:35 AM)
Don't look now, guys, but your image, as reprinted at APOD, made Opportunity jealous!  Take a look at her http://www.livejournal.com/users/opportunitygrrl/.

Of course, Oppy does get jealous of her sister... there's a good amount of sibling rivalry going on there...  smile.gif

-the other Doug
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That is really cute. Oppy is " The Princess Rover !!! ". Thank you for the link

Posted by: dvandorn Dec 7 2005, 06:43 PM

Oh, Spirit has her own live journal too:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/spiritrover/

But Spirit's journal isn't updated even as often as Oppy's -- and Spirit has always been the problem child. She had that schizophrenic episode back on Sol 18, remember. She's always writing dark, depressing poetry about dark and cold and such...

Actually, the whole thing is clever, and I appreciated someone taking the time to put together those live journals. And our MERs aren't the only probes with live journals at that site...

http://www.livejournal.com/users/hubbletelescope/

http://www.livejournal.com/users/star_dusting/

http://www.livejournal.com/users/soho_sat/

http://www.livejournal.com/users/goes_sat/

http://www.livejournal.com/users/pathfindress/

And my personal favorite, that plucky Mars probe that doesn't yet know the Soviet Union has fallen and exists no more:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/mars3/

Unfortunately, whoever had the clever idea of setting up these live journals has obviously developed a life or something int he past year -- most of the journals have been pretty inactive for the past 12 to 18 months. But they're amusing, and the Mars 3 journal is outstandingly entertaining! His journal entries begin back in 1971...

-the other Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 Dec 15 2005, 04:55 PM

That's a truly amazing image and I just found it yesterday in our University's library rolleyes.gif

Some questions:

For the BIS ( British Interplanetary Society ) monthly magazine ' Spaceflight ' we're searching a spectacular MER image to put on the cover of the magazine which will have the 1 Martian year on the Red planet article ...

1. Could we use this image ?
2. What would the copyright be ?
3. If the answer is affirmative, could one of the 4 authors, send me a high resolution version please ?

On the other hand:

Is that particular ' Aviation Week & Space Technology ' still available ?

Thanks in advance,
Philip
mars.gif

Posted by: mars loon Dec 15 2005, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Dec 15 2005, 04:55 PM)
That's a truly amazing image and I just found it yesterday in our University's library  rolleyes.gif

Some questions:

For the BIS ( British Interplanetary Society ) monthly magazine ' Spaceflight ' we're searching a spectacular MER image to put on the cover of the magazine which will have the 1 Martian year on the Red planet article ...

1. Could we use this image ?
2. What would the copyright be ?
3. If the answer is affirmative, could one of the 4 authors, send me a high resolution version please ?

On the other hand:

Is that particular ' Aviation Week & Space Technology ' still available ?

Thanks in advance,
Philip
mars.gif
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Philip,

YES !!!!

you may reprint it so long as reprint credit is given to Aviation Week and the 4 authors

I will get you exactly what you need later today.

please send me an email at

ken@princetonastronomy.org

also you can purchase the issue from Aviation Week directly, if its still in stock.

here is the info from my earlier post in this thread:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More on availability of Aviation Week

--Aviation Week & Space Technology is not sold on news stands. It is a subscriber only publication with subscribers in 180 countries. But anyone can order individual copies by calling this toll free number: 800-525-5003.

Just tell them you would like to order the Nov. 14, 2005 issue of Aviation Week.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

thank you

ken

Posted by: mars loon Dec 16 2005, 05:09 AM

Philip

Here are a summary of links to online versions of the Spirit panorama and story (by Craig Covault) printed by Aviation Week (14 Nov 2005) and reprinted by NASAWATCH and APOD. You may reprint the panorama in "BIS Spaceflight" with credit to Aviation Week and the 4 authors. Please contact me for higher resolution or alternate versions.

Link to AWST story and online pdf:
http://www.aviationweek.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/11145p1.xml
http://www.aviationnow.com/media/pdf/spirit_p618f_col_a2b.pdf

Link to NASAWATCH story:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1075

Link to online NASAWATCH/Spaceref pdf reprint:
http://images.spaceref.com/news/2005/SPIRITAWST.l.jpg

Link to APOD image reprint:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051128.html

Spaceflight is quite a fine publication and we would be honored for the panorama to appear therein

ken

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 21 2005, 11:58 AM

And the image has now made it to the New Scientist Xmas issue - Credited to Dilo again and that Al chap.

Well done!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: mars loon Dec 21 2005, 12:41 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 21 2005, 11:58 AM)
And the image has now made it to the New Scientist Xmas issue - Credited to Dilo again and that Al chap.

Well done!

Bob Shaw
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Hi Bob,

thank you for the notice and that does sound nice.

Actually we did not submit it to them.

Can you please put on a link if possible or email me. I just checked online and do not see it as a current or past issue as of 17 Dec 2005

thank you

ken

Posted by: ustrax Dec 21 2005, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 21 2005, 11:58 AM)
And the image has now made it to the New Scientist Xmas issue - Credited to Dilo again and that Al chap.

Well done!

Bob Shaw
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So many Xmas gifts! biggrin.gif
Congratulations again guys, for your great great work!
biggrin.gif

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 21 2005, 01:21 PM

QUOTE (mars loon @ Dec 21 2005, 01:41 PM)
Hi Bob,

thank you for the notice and that does sound nice.

Actually we did not submit it to them.

Can you please put on a link if possible or email me.  I just checked online and do not see it as a current or past issue as of 17 Dec 2005

thank you

ken
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Ken:

It's a full-pager on p14 of the 24/31 December double issue in their review of 2005.

Credits in full are to: 'MARCO DI LORENZO ETAL (sic) COURTESY AVIATION WEEK/JPL/NASA'

I suspect it'll be somewhere on the NS web site, too.

Bob Shaw

Posted by: djellison Dec 21 2005, 02:14 PM

Oh, dont tell me they think ETAL is part of Marco's name instead of et al (meaning and others)

Doug

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 21 2005, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 21 2005, 03:14 PM)
Oh, dont tell me they think ETAL is part of Marco's name instead of et al (meaning and others)

Doug
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Doug:

You got it!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: mars loon Dec 21 2005, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 21 2005, 02:31 PM)
Doug:

You got it!

Bob Shaw
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Bob,

thanks for the info. They really should have contacted us. do you or anyone have the editors email or contact info?

ken

Posted by: dilo Dec 21 2005, 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 21 2005, 02:31 PM)
Doug:

You got it!

Bob Shaw
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sad.gif
Hey, they weren't very smart, nor correct! I do not like to appear as the only author, this was a cooperative effort! I think they must publish an errata with their apologies in the next issue... mad.gif
Anyway, I think will be hard for me to find an hardcopy here... can someone kindly post (or send to me and co-authors) a scan of this page?
Thanks!

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 21 2005, 08:01 PM

QUOTE (dilo @ Dec 21 2005, 08:39 PM)
sad.gif
Hey, they weren't very smart, nor correct! I do not like to appear as the only author, this was a cooperative effort! I think they must publish an errata with their apologies in the next issue... mad.gif
Anyway, I think will be hard for me to find an hardcopy here... can someone kindly post (or send to me and co-authors) a scan of this page?
Thanks!
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I suspect that Aviation Week has certain rights to the image now, and sold it...

...it's *still* nice to be responsible for a full-page of New Scientist, though!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: mars loon Dec 22 2005, 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 21 2005, 08:01 PM)
I suspect that Aviation Week has certain rights to the image now, and sold it...

...it's *still* nice to be responsible for a full-page of New Scientist, though!

Bob Shaw
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Bob, All

We are virtually certain that Aviation Week did not sell the image.

Based on your description, it appears that New Scientist magazine reprinted, without permission or proper credit to the 4 authors, the image we submitted to APOD and which appeared on APOD on 28 Nov 2005.

We are FLATTERED and HAPPY that they reprinted the image, but do request proper credit. That is simply the standard copyright practive and courtesy, to accord credit, especially for a science magazine.

Can you or someone, please possibly scan or post the article and email to the authors so that way we may see exactly how it has appeared.

currently I only have access to this abstract:
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/mg18825315.100

thank you

ken

Posted by: djellison Dec 22 2005, 02:52 PM

What I just can not believe is that New SCIENTIST... (I'll say that again..SCIENTIST) confused the phrase et al (used a dozen times on just about any science paper ever written) and made it into Marco's second sirname Etal.

That's bad enough - but to then put (sic) at the end, which basically says 'Yes, we know it looks odd that the guys name ends in Etal, but it's right, we checked, honestly' - is just SHOCKINGLY bad practice by whoever put it in there. I'm more upset by their utter stupidity then their failure to ask us & AW first. The answer would, of course, have been yes, but to screw it up so badly is shocking for what I thought was a good publication.

Doug

Posted by: lyford Dec 22 2005, 04:26 PM

Well next issue they are going to do an article on the great Irish inventor, Pat Pending. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Bill Harris Dec 22 2005, 04:56 PM

This sounds like very poor editorial practice for New Scientist.

It depends on your agreement with AW, but typically you license the use of an image under agreed-upon terms and retain ownership and all other rights to the image. In this case, you probably would grant one-time exclusive use with reprint privledges. An image is rarely sold outright, especially a unique image like this one.

Unless specifically granted, AW cannot "sell" use of your image. Not knowing any more details, I'd say that New Scientist used the image without authorization and may be liable for substantial useage fees. You may not want to be hard-headed about this, but you do need to press _any_ infringement issues assertively. If you don't, it sets a bad precedent for anyone who wants to mis-appropriate that image from you or any image from anyone else in the future.

As much as we'd all like to hear how this drama unfolds, you may want to consider what you say in public on this matter. And be careful what you post or publish from the NS website here, if you infringe on them, that could compromise your position. Posting the link to the abstract was OK.

I do photography as an amateur-professional sideline, and I get stuck with issues like this from time to time. "BT,DT".

--Bill

Posted by: chris Dec 22 2005, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 22 2005, 02:52 PM)
What I just can not believe is that New SCIENTIST... (I'll say that again..SCIENTIST) confused the phrase et al (used a dozen times on just about any science paper ever written) and made it into Marco's second sirname Etal.

That's bad enough - but to then put (sic) at the end, which basically says 'Yes, we know it looks odd that the guys name ends in Etal, but it's right, we checked, honestly' - is just SHOCKINGLY bad practice by whoever put it in there.  I'm more upset by their utter stupidity then their failure to ask us & AW first. The answer would, of course, have been yes, but to screw it up so badly is shocking for what I thought was a good publication.

Doug
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Doug,

I've got a copy in front of me. Just to clarify, the "(sic)" must have been added by Bob to indicate that part of the credit reads "ETAL" and that it wasn't an typo on his part. The text as printed reads, exactly:

MARCO DI LORENZO ETAL COURTESY AVIATIONWEEK/JPL/NASA

The lack of a space between AVIATION and WEEK suggests to me that more than one space has been lost at some point. Somebody has been a bit slapdash, and the magazine needs its wrist slapped.

Chris

Posted by: Of counsel Dec 22 2005, 05:59 PM

Bill is correct. The dispute that our fine colleagues here at UMSF (the "authors" of the "work") have with New Scientist's use of their work depends upon their agreement/contract with Aviation Week. It appears to me that the authors put so much work into the cover that they in fact own the copyright, but their contract may have assigned the "re-copy" rights to Aviation Week in some fashion. Depending on the terms of their contract, IMHO either Aviation Week or the authors may very well may have some legal dispute with New Scientist if NS did not have proper permission.

Posted by: CosmicRocker Dec 23 2005, 06:01 AM

There are so many web sites that simply cut and paste content or links from other web sites. It's often done without attribution these days, and it reminds me that the WWW is still like the Wild Wild West of the United States, not so long ago. It's good to note that there still are some Marshals around.

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 23 2005, 01:24 PM

QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 22 2005, 03:52 PM)
What I just can not believe is that New SCIENTIST... (I'll say that again..SCIENTIST) confused the phrase et al (used a dozen times on just about any science paper ever written) and made it into Marco's second sirname Etal.

That's bad enough - but to then put (sic) at the end, which basically says 'Yes, we know it looks odd that the guys name ends in Etal, but it's right, we checked, honestly' - is just SHOCKINGLY bad practice by whoever put it in there.  I'm more upset by their utter stupidity then their failure to ask us & AW first. The answer would, of course, have been yes, but to screw it up so badly is shocking for what I thought was a good publication.

Doug
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Doug (et al):

I am wholly, entirely, completely, indivisibly, totally and utterly responsible for the (sic). It was put in to make the point that NS had, indeed, assumed that ETAL was a bit of a surname! And yes, it was obviously poor proof-reading that let it slip into the magazine, but there's been much worse in the past, I'm sure. FWIW, the page in question was much more in the territory of the graphics designers than the guys who write the editorial text, and it's a fact of life that the folk who do graphics are at heart only able to see text as black marks on paper - and the folk who write copy don't see graphics! So, on a page with a big picture and some text the proportion of schoolboy howlers dramatically rises. Still, at least the image wasn't reprinted by the Grauniad, which might have been *really* creative!

I suspect that your deal with AW&ST included a reprint element, and that NS picked the image up as stock footage. Or, indeed, assumed that they were dealing with an attributable but non-copyright asserted image (as in NASA images - for example, the paintings which Don Davis did for Galileo etc).

I'll scan the page in question and post it here shortly - if anybody wants a B I G version then e-mail me and I'll send you a high-res file.

It's quite a coup getting published by NS, and I'm sure that they'll publish an errata if you ask - they regularly run a 'For the Record' spot on the Letters Page where they correct errors.

NS (which is now shut until next year) may be contacted via a forms-based web page at:
http://www.newscientist.com/contact.ns

Or try the Editor:
jeremy.webb@newscientist.com

Bob Shaw

Posted by: mars loon Dec 23 2005, 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 23 2005, 01:24 PM)
Doug (et al):

I am wholly, entirely, completely, indivisibly, totally and utterly responsible for the (sic). It was put in to make the point that NS had, indeed, assumed that ETAL was a bit of a surname! And yes, it was obviously poor proof-reading that let it slip into the magazine, but there's been much worse in the past, I'm sure. FWIW, the page in question was much more in the territory of the graphics designers than the guys who write the editorial text, and it's a fact of life that the folk who do graphics are at heart only able to see text as black marks on paper - and the folk who write copy don't see graphics! So, on a page with a big picture and some text the proportion of schoolboy howlers dramatically rises.  Still, at least the image wasn't reprinted by the Grauniad, which might have been *really* creative!

I suspect that your deal with AW&ST included a reprint element, and that NS picked the image up as stock footage. Or, indeed, assumed that they were dealing with an attributable but non-copyright asserted image (as in NASA images - for example, the paintings which Don Davis did for Galileo etc).

I'll scan the page in question and post it here shortly - if anybody wants a B I G version then e-mail me and I'll send you a high-res file.

It's quite a coup getting published by NS, and I'm sure that they'll publish an errata if you ask - they regularly run a 'For the Record' spot on the Letters Page where they correct errors.

NS (which is now shut until next year) may be contacted via a forms-based web page at:
http://www.newscientist.com/contact.ns

Or try the Editor:
jeremy.webb@newscientist.com

Bob Shaw
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Hi Bob,

thank you for the additional info here and earlier

I have already emailed them at several addresses with no word back. thank you for the editors direct link.

will send you an email for the hi res file. thank you

ken

Posted by: Bob Shaw Dec 23 2005, 11:25 PM

Here's a low-res scan of the NS page, plus a crop showing just the credits:

Bob Shaw

 

Posted by: mars loon Dec 28 2005, 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 23 2005, 11:25 PM)
Here's a low-res scan of the NS page, plus a crop showing just the credits:

Bob Shaw
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Hi Bob,

thanks for the very helpful info and scan and am optimistic that things will sort out well given some time.

In the meantime, I've just seen it in the 24 Dec "New Scientist" issue on the newsstand in a US Bookstore (Barnes and Nobles). It is an attractive looking layout and reproduction for those who are interested to see it before the next weekly issue appears.

ken

Posted by: mars loon Jan 8 2006, 05:05 PM

The "SPIRITS SOAR" panorama has just been selected by The Planetary Society for "The Year in Pictures 2005".

Please see that link below as well as a few other recent appearences.

Here are a summary of links to published and/or online versions of the "SPIRITS SOAR" panorama for the story written by Craig Covault, Senior Editor for Aviation Week.

The image was originally printed by Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine for the 14 Nov 2005 issue magazine cover and included 2 additional images inside with the full cover package and 6 page story.

Link to AWST story and online pdf:
http://www.aviationweek.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/11145p1.xml
http://www.aviationnow.com/media/pdf/spirit_p618f_col_a2b.pdf

Also printed in the 12 December 2005 issue on p. 6 of Letters to the Editor

Link to NASAWATCH story:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1075

Link to online NASAWATCH/Spaceref pdf reprint:
http://images.spaceref.com/news/2005/SPIRITAWST.l.jpg

Link to APOD image reprint:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051128.html

Link to "De Standaard", a leading Belgian newspaper, reprint on 1 Dec 2005. Full page color image/story on p 91
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=2613

Link to "New Scientist" reprint on 24 Dec 2005. Full page color image/story on p.14
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=1674&view=findpost&p=32934

Link to "Siderial Times" newsletter issue of Dec 2005 for the Amateur Astronomers Association of Princeton. All 3 color images reprinted. Click on site map, scroll down to Siderial Times online and click on Dec 2005 issue to download pdf file.
http://www.princetonastronomy.org/

Link to The Planetary Society website and "The Year in Pictures 2005" headline. click on link and then scroll down to September 28 and click on "Space Enthusiasts Create Art"
http://www.planetary.org/home/
http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/1231_The_Year_in_Pictures_2005.html.

Another image from the Aviation Week project was posted online by my teammate Marco at this link:
http://www.uai.it/index.php?tipo=A&id=1098

Our Marsmate Nico, also published a 2 page wide pancam mosaic in the 12 Sep 2005 issue of Aviation Week on p. 60/61. The image displayed exquisite detail of the Thira and Gusev Crater rims from the summit of Husband hill. It was included in an article titled 'King of the Hill' and was written by forum member Michael A. Dornheim.

Please contact us if you would like to print the "SPIRITS SOAR" images in a magazine or elsewhere or post online with credit to the 4 authors and Aviation Week. And please inform us if you see it elsewhere. Thank you

ken

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 9 2006, 06:39 PM

Is that Aviation Week magazine still available ?

Posted by: chris Jan 12 2006, 10:23 AM

You will all be pleased to hear that in today's issue of New Scientist (11/Jan/06), on page 22, in the "For the record" section, appears the following:

We missed part of the credit for the Mars rover photo (24/31 December 2005, p14). It should have read "Marco Di Lorenzo, Bernhard Braun, Doug Ellison and Ken Kramer courtesy of Aviation Week/JPL/NASA".

Chris

Edit: Corrected typo

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 12 2006, 10:31 AM

Do Lorenzo? huh.gif

Posted by: dilo Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM

Thanks, chris smile.gif ...
(are you sure about "Marco Do Lorenzo" instead of "Di Lorenzo"? )

Posted by: chris Jan 12 2006, 10:55 AM

QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM)
Thanks, chris  smile.gif ...
(are you sure about "Marco Do Lorenzo" instead of "Di Lorenzo"? )
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Ooops. It was a typo on my part, not New Scientist's. I've corrected my post.

Chris

Posted by: mars loon Jan 12 2006, 03:30 PM

QUOTE (chris @ Jan 12 2006, 10:23 AM)
You will all be pleased to hear that in today's issue of New Scientist (11/Jan/06), on page 22, in the "For the record" section, appears the following:

We missed part of the credit for the Mars rover photo (24/31 December 2005, p14). It should have read "Marco Di Lorenzo, Bernhard Braun, Doug Ellison and Ken Kramer courtesy of Aviation Week/JPL/NASA".

Chris

Edit: Corrected typo
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Thanks, Chris

I hope its Kremer not Kramer

well, I was about to put in a post saying that we have been in touch with the editors of New Scientist and that NS has very graciously agreed to put in a correction in an upcoming issue and also sent us complimentary copies.

They are a first class publication. We are very pleased that they beautifully reprinted our "SPIRITS SOAR" image in a colorful full page spread and that they have issued this correction. Please allow me to acknowledge also, to all forum members, the indispensible help by our friend and collegue Bob Shaw. A fantastic example of UMSF teamwork.

Thank you to Chris for the info and all members too !!

ken

Posted by: chris Jan 12 2006, 03:36 PM

QUOTE (mars loon @ Jan 12 2006, 03:30 PM)
I hope its Kremer not Kramer

ken
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It isn't a typo on my part this time. The magazine says "Kramer".

Chris

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 12 2006, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (mars loon @ Jan 12 2006, 05:20 PM)
Perhaps you can also do that for our "Spirits Soar" Image
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Here it is.
The font size is smaller (maybe too small) because there is not so much "empty" space as in Olivier's image to place the calendar. I'll try to make an "improved" version.

(947k)

Posted by: mars loon Jan 12 2006, 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 12 2006, 05:43 PM)
Here it is.
The font size is smaller (maybe too small) because there is not so much "empty" space as in Olivier's image to place the calendar. I'll try to make an "improved" version.

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Fantastic, I like it. And WOW, that was fast.

I will email this to Craig at Aviation Week !!

Perhaps you can do in a few more languages: German, Italian, Portugese (for Ustrax), Spanish, French, etc. sorry !!

Many, many thanks

ken

Posted by: dilo Jan 12 2006, 08:39 PM

Beautiful calendar, Tesheiner!
I suggest you also not to use black color for numbers because they aren't clearly visible in front of martian soil.
I will surely put it on my desk!!!

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 12 2006, 08:52 PM

Thanks Dilo.

I used black because most of the calendar is against the sky, so a dark font should be better. But, yes you are right about the soil.
I'm still planning to improve this version, and one of the changes would be to use font colors depending on the background.

Comments/suggestions are welcome.

Posted by: mars loon Jan 12 2006, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 12 2006, 08:52 PM)
Thanks Dilo.

I used black because most of the calendar is against the sky, so a dark font should be better. But, yes you are right about the soil.
I'm still planning to improve this version, and one of the changes would be to use font colors depending on the background.

Comments/suggestions are welcome.
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Actually the green is much harder to read, black is marginal so play a bit with the colors.

Some other suggestions is to put the Earth date in addition to Sol: September 28, 2005

and the publication issue date next to Aviation Week is 14 November 2005

but these are minor points for your Great Idea !!

thank you

ken

Posted by: Bill Harris Jan 13 2006, 10:01 AM

QUOTE
We are very pleased that they beautifully reprinted our "SPIRITS SOAR" image in a colorful full page spread and that they have issued this correction.


Matter of nosey curiosity... did AW have the photo rights to give NS permission to reprint the image? Hopefully they were not given _all_ rights to the image. And hopefully NS will pay for use of the image and this is not a case of "Vanity Press".

--Bill

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 13 2006, 01:02 PM

Second, and hopefully final, version of the calendar (in pdf).
I had to re-arrange the original text, otherwise Ken's suggestions wouldn't fit well. I hope not to be violating any copyright, am I?

 cal_2006_UMSF_v2.pdf ( 556.15K ) : 439

Posted by: AndyG Jan 13 2006, 02:06 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 13 2006, 01:02 PM)
Second, and hopefully final, version of the calendar (in pdf).
 cal_2006_UMSF_v2.pdf ( 556.15K ) : 439

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It looks lovely...though the pessimistic part of me can't help wondering whether one (or two!?) of the dates on that calendar will be <gulp> the last ones from which we hear from Spirit or Opportunity. sad.gif

Hmmm. So here's to December 31st, 2006, and two functional robots: one enjoying panoramas of Victoria from next to hundreds of metres of pristine sections, and the other, well, where? smile.gif

Andy

Posted by: mars loon Jan 13 2006, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 13 2006, 01:02 PM)
Second, and hopefully final, version of the calendar (in pdf).
I had to re-arrange the original text, otherwise Ken's suggestions wouldn't fit well. I hope not to be violating any copyright, am I?

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Eduardo,

Outstanding Work. biggrin.gif wheel.gif biggrin.gif

I like all the rearrangements and the U shape of the dates and have just a few more suggestions please.

But First, I'm glad your name is there. I thought about that too and was going to request that.

1. Please Capitalize U in university
2. Change date to read .... 28 September 2005 and delete parenthesis
or relocate the comma to ... September 28, 2005
3. Under the date, Add ... Husband Hill Summit, Gusev Crater
4. insert UMSF Forum somewhere at bottom
5. consider changing the text color to yellow like in 2006 or something else more striking than white

no copyright issues that I can see
thank you for a great effort

(edited)

ken

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 13 2006, 09:24 PM

It's a pleasure, Ken.

Just wait 'til monday. The source files are on my office...

Posted by: mars loon Jan 13 2006, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 13 2006, 09:24 PM)
It's a pleasure, Ken.

Just wait 'til monday. The source files are on my office...
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OK, I'll have a few more suggestions by then.

It is really outstanding. I've printed out the latest version and really like that the dates are moved off to the side, allowing a majestic view of the summit itself.

Thank you.

ken

PS: I guess its clear we all dream of Mars at the office

Posted by: Tesheiner Jan 16 2006, 05:10 PM

Mmm, some color changes here and few text corrections there... biggrin.gif

(Use the pdf version for printing)
 cal_2006_UMSF_v3.pdf ( 561.39K ) : 396

Posted by: mars loon Jan 16 2006, 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 16 2006, 05:10 PM)
Mmm, some color changes here and few text corrections there...  biggrin.gif
(Use the pdf version for printing)
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Outstanding !! Its a wrap. Thank you

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ken

Posted by: PhilCo126 Feb 14 2006, 05:39 PM

Could any of the 4 UMSF forum-members who worked together to compile the Spirit photo send me a private message please ?
I do have some questions... Thanks in advance !
Philip
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Posted by: mars loon Feb 14 2006, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Feb 14 2006, 05:39 PM) *
Could any of the 4 UMSF forum-members who worked together to compile the Spirit photo send me a private message please ?
Philip
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Philip, just saw your message. thanks. ken

Posted by: PhilCo126 Feb 14 2006, 09:13 PM

Thank You Ken, Nirgal & Marco for contacting me ... I'll reveal the sub-topic of my request next week to the forum wink.gif

Posted by: PhilCo126 Feb 17 2006, 05:44 PM

Thankword for the support from UMSF forum !

Dr Ken Kremer has send a better resolution image of the ' now famous Spirit ' photo to the British Interplanetary Society and it's confirmed it will be on the cover for the April 2006 issue of ' Spaceflight ' available on news stands medio March 2006 !

Many thanks to every body on UMSF involved with this smile.gif

Philip
BELGIUM

Posted by: dilo Feb 17 2006, 07:47 PM

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Posted by: mars loon Feb 18 2006, 03:51 AM

Thank you for your outstanding help and thank you to the Spaceflight editors and staff. A fine publication indeed! ken biggrin.gif

Posted by: CosmicRocker Feb 18 2006, 06:42 AM

Well, I think I missed my chance to buy a copy of the Aviation Week edition, but if there were some place where I could purchase a copy of either that one, or the upcoming Spaceflight edition, autographed by all of the artists, I'd pull out my wallet.

Posted by: Steffen Feb 19 2006, 10:46 AM

Well I always grab hold of a Spaceflight magazine, check it diagonally and buy it if it has something on unmanned spaceflight, which it has in 50% of the time smile.gif
Guess I'll buy a few of the April 2006 issues with the UMSF Spirit cover smile.gif

Posted by: PhilCo126 Feb 20 2006, 09:46 AM

Well Steffen, I believe most of the non-subscribers just take a magazine, check it through and buy it if it has interesting articles... Most people just photocopy an article. But on the subject of Unmanned Spaceflight, BIS' monthly Spaceflight magazine is doing a great job ( This year it will have articles on: New Horizons, Voyager, 30th anniversary of the VIking landings, Mapping Phobos & Deimos, etc... )
Trying my best to do my bit for BIS wink.gif
Philip cool.gif

Posted by: PhilCo126 Mar 7 2006, 04:18 PM

Finally, the image is on the cover of BIS' monthly SPACEFLIGHT magazine ...
The April 2006 issue will be on news stands by mid-March 2006 smile.gif
Thanks again to everyone who helped me out !

Here the weblink:
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http://www.bis-spaceflight.com/sitesia.aspx/page/183/id/598/l/nl-be

Best regards !
Philip cool.gif
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Posted by: dilo Mar 7 2006, 05:29 PM

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Posted by: mars loon Mar 8 2006, 01:59 AM

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thank you, ken

Posted by: PhilCo126 Mar 18 2006, 11:34 AM

Ken, as promised I have send You a 300 DPI High-res version of the cover ...
The first page with contents of the magazine has the complete & correct photo credit listing the 4 names of Marco Di Lorenzo, Doug Ellison, Bernhard Braun and Kenneth Kremer.
BIS staff confirmed that each of the contributor will get a free copie ...
Meanwhile the April 2006 issue is on newsstands right now and can be back-ordered via the BIS-spaceflight.com website at US $ 7.00 per issue smile.gif
NIX I kept one for You aside wink.gif

I'm very pleased and meanwhile got my proof for an article on "Mapping the Martian moons Phobos & Deimos" for the May 2006 issue ;-)

Many thanks again to UMSF !
Philip
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Posted by: mars loon Mar 25 2006, 03:47 PM

Philip,

thank you for the files and a great collaboration. And, I highly recommend forum members to read Philip's articles.

The "Spaceflight" cover is fantastically beautiful and a different, more symmetrical version compared to the Aviation Week cover.

To purchase the Aviation Week issue, call them at 800-525-5003 as I wrote in an earlier post

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1674&view=findpost&p=26953

For those in the area, you can view a large poster of the panorama at my next Mars lecture on March 25 in Voorhees, NJ at the New Jersey Astronomical Association at 830 PM.

http://www.njaa.org/
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1972&view=findpost&p=44120

thanks

ken

Posted by: CosmicRocker Mar 27 2006, 05:40 AM

Thanks, Ken. I'll try that phone number tomorrow. I tried to order some copies on line, but somehow couldn't get past some strange error every time I attempted to "check out." I still think Doug should put some signed copies up for sale in the store.

Posted by: djellison Mar 27 2006, 07:57 AM

I really wouldnt want to deface one by scrawling on it smile.gif

Doug

Posted by: mars loon Oct 13 2006, 10:27 PM

A brand new publication of the "Spirits Soar" panorama:

Its beautifully reproduced inside the brand new book titled "Astronomy: 365 Days" by the editors of Astronomy Picture of the Day. Its located on the page for "Dec 10". There were several versions of the panorama and this one was published on APOD on 28 Nov 2005. The book is published by Harry N Abrams, Inc/NYC. Website: www.hnabooks.com
The original was published on the cover of Aviation Week and Space Technology on 14 Nov 2005.

ken

PS: please check this thread for our latest team color panorama from Duck Bay, Victoria Crater published on 2 Oct 2006 in Aviation Week and Space Technology (see p. 24) and also the same day on APOD

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3282

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061002.html

Posted by: PhilCo126 Oct 14 2006, 12:16 PM

Other UMSF related news: I might get another MARS - MER related cover for the January 2007 issue of BIS Spaceflight magazine ( probably the from-orbit view of Victoria Crater ) and use some images of James Canvin for the 5th MER-article cool.gif

Posted by: mars loon Mar 14 2007, 04:37 PM

Our Mars team image of Spirit at Hillary just appeared on APOD (13 March 2007) with the great headline

"Attacking Mars"
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070313.html

This image originally appeared in the 14 November 2005 issue of "Aviation Week and Space Technology" magazine as part of the extensive review article written by Craig Covault as Spirit reached the summit of Husband Hill.

"Hillary" is named in honor of Sir Edmund Hillary

click on the image for a caption and photo credits

M. Di Lorenzo, B. Braun. D. Ellison and K. Kremer

enjoy

ken


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APOD Caption:

The Spirit rover attacked Mars again in 2005 September. What might look, above, like a military attack, though, was once again just a scientific one - Spirit was instructed to closely inspect some interesting rocks near the summit of Husband Hill. Spirit's Panoramic Camera captured the rover's Instrument Deployment Device above as moved to get a closer look at an outcrop of rocks named Hillary. The Spirit rover, and its twin rover Opportunity, have now been exploring the red planet for over three years. Both Spirit and Opportunity have found evidence that parts of Mars were once wet.

Posted by: Gray Mar 14 2007, 05:33 PM

Congratulations!! That's a really dramatic pose. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Reckless Mar 14 2007, 07:17 PM

ohmy.gif If the quality of that image was any better it would qualify as a sample return mission. tongue.gif
Roy F

Posted by: djellison May 21 2007, 11:14 AM

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_828.html

Full circle really smile.gif

Posted by: dilo May 21 2007, 06:02 PM

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Posted by: Tesheiner May 22 2007, 08:02 AM

smile.gif is not enough, Marco.
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Congrats again for all of you.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Nov 7 2007, 07:28 PM

Just got confirmation for another MER article for the January 2008 issue of BIS spaceflight magazine with photo-work by Bernhard, Doug, James, Ken, Marco and Eduardo. Thanks again for this support!
Meanwhile the editor is checking other USMF-origin color panoramas for a possible MER cover smile.gif
Check for the 2008 weblink as soon as it appears at:
http://www.bis-spaceflight.com/sitesia.aspx/page/184/id/1181/l/en-us

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 4 2008, 09:20 PM

Today marks 4 years of MER Spirit operations on the red planet... Keep on roving Spirit wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif

Posted by: nprev Jan 4 2008, 09:46 PM

Right on, Phil...also the 50th anniversary of Sputnik 1's re-entry. Ad Astra per Scientiam, now and forever...

Posted by: mars loon Oct 24 2009, 01:40 AM

In 2009, our UMSF team panorama of Spirit's view from the summit of Husband Hill was reprinted at several sites including

** The International Year of Astronomy
Bootleg Postcards -- Armchair Astronauts Exploring the Solar System
Podcaster: Doug Ellison
http://365daysofastronomy.org/2009/01/19/january-19-bootleg-postcards-armchair-astronauts-exploring-the-solar-system/

** The Planetary Society
Celebrating Five Years of Roaming the Red Planet
http://www.planetary.org/programs/projects/advocacy_and_education/space_information/5years.html

** The Planetary Report: Jan/Feb 2009 issue
Bootleg Postcards: Amateurs Participating in Space Missions
by Doug Ellison
http://www.planetary.org/programs/projects/advocacy_and_education/space_information/tpr_2009_1.

** Universe Today

Citizen Science: Unmannedspaceflight.com
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/01/19/citizen-science-unmannedspaceflightcom/
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/01/19/citizen-science-unmannedspaceflightcom/aviation_week_cover_spirit_husband_sm/

I'll have a new publication announcement for 2010 shortly

ken kremer

kremerken at yahoo.com
http://www.rittenhouseastronomicalsociety.org/Dr.Kremer/K.htm

Posted by: dilo Oct 24 2009, 06:16 PM

Thanks for this, Ken

QUOTE (mars loon @ Oct 24 2009, 01:40 AM) *
I'll have a new publication announcement for 2010 shortly

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Posted by: mars loon Dec 15 2009, 11:54 PM

To start the Year 2010 ....

our UMSF team panorama of Spirit's view from the summit of Husband Hill was chosen to appear in the "YEAR IN SPACE 2010 Desk Calander"
(published in cooperation with The Planetary Society)
http://www.yearinspace.com/

See it in Week 1 ... of this 52 week calander

how fitting that this coincides with 6 Years on Mars !

see it here:



download the FREE 52 week poster here :
http://www.yearinspace.com/images/stories/images2010.pdf

Free Spirit !

ken kremer

kremerken at yahoo.com
http://www.rittenhouseastronomicalsociety.org/Dr.Kremer/K.htm


Posted by: mars loon Dec 31 2009, 05:04 PM

Happy Martian New Year


Now Online:
FREE weekly newsletter from "The Year on Space 2010" calander with UMSF team panorama of Spirit at Husband Hill summit
http://www.yearinspace.com/the-week-in-space/148-december-28-2009-robot-revisited.html
http://www.yearinspace.com

complete pan here:
http://www.aviationnow.com/media/pdf/spirit_p618f_col_a2b.pdf
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051128.html

ken kremer

kremerken at yahoo.com
http://www.rittenhouseastronomicalsociety.org/Dr.Kremer/K.htm

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