Three new 'Trojan' asteroids found sharing Neptune's orbit |
Three new 'Trojan' asteroids found sharing Neptune's orbit |
Aug 28 2006, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
I have impression that this shouldn't be a real danger for NH... Yes, we do not know real population of Neptune Trojans and we never went through such a region but, IMHO, I think isn't worst than go through main asteroid belt as many spacecrafts already safely did.
Anyway, in my understanding we cannot avoid this risk and the only eventual possible precaution I see is to re-orient the spacecraft using HGA antenna as a shield for main spacecraft body. This mill make communications impossible (or at least not continuous) for months, I guess. Anyway, it would be great to visit a trojans member, but we have to be lucky to find one close enough to original Pluto trajectory (as highlighted by the other Alan...). -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Aug 28 2006, 01:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 30-January 05 Member No.: 162 |
The Pioneer spacecraft found less dust in the asteroid belt than elsewhere.
I am not sure if the mechanism that abates the dust there applies to the Neptune Trojans too, but if it does, there should be no fear of that zorching a close flyby of one of those fascinating objects. |
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Aug 28 2006, 02:15 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Imagine an enormous dusty warehouse.
If one massive industrial vacuum went through the middle...it would end up dustier than an army of tiny dust-buster vacs Doug |
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Aug 30 2006, 06:06 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Even if the dust concentration there were say 100 times greater than interplanetary space, I don't think that would pose any hazard to the spacecraft. We're talking really sparse dust population here. Note that Cassini successfully flew through one of the ring "gaps" (granted, with the HGA in ram direction) and had hundreds of thousands of dust particle hits within minutes -- yet it survived. I'm sure any dust clouds (if any) aren't going to be anything near that of a Saturnian ring "gap". IMHO, there's nothing to fear of passage through Neptune's L4 point. Well, that's good data, ugordan, and I feel a bit better. However, as a Chicken Little/devil's advocate, I'd still like to know more about the following: 1. Estimated number of macro-objects (100m diameter & above) in Neptune's L4, and density of same...not worried about hitting one, just wondering if dust density might be proportional after eons of mutual collision. 2. Estimated efficiency of "cleansing" of Neptune's Trojan points via solar radiation pressure. All that said, the risk does seem minimal...but would like to see it quantified. Zorching NH is not an option! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 13 2006, 02:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
-------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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