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InSight EDL, 26 Nov 2018
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE (dmg @ Nov 27 2018, 03:18 AM) *
Yes but in this case the expected comm pass was with mars odyssey which would transmit from what it got from insight. Anyway nothing to do but wait and see


Yes, but I remember it showing up on the antenna as SPP (Solar Probe Plus) but no downlink animation, even though they obviously had received data, because they confirmed critical spacecraft deployment sequences.
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:23 AM
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<shrug>...same thing in this case. MODY is shown on DSS 25 & 26, MAVEN & MRO also on 26. We can't tell.

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post Nov 27 2018, 02:29 AM
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https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/11/26/insig...-status-center/

Spaceflightnow does live updates.

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11/26/2018 18:14
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We're standing by for an update on the deployment of InSight's solar panels as JPL engineers analyze data relayed from the lander to Earth via the Mars Odyssey orbiter.
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:46 AM
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New image.
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE (dmg @ Nov 26 2018, 06:03 PM) *
I understand the caution about DSN Now in terms of the variable "positive predictive value" of it appearing to be communicating with a certain spacecraft. What is the "negative predictive value" of it showing a prolonged (i.e. in this case >25 min) NO communication through any antenna with a given spacecraft at a time that comm. was expected?


False negatives are also a thing. Very often. All down to the antennas and how they report their status back to the subscription services from which DSN Now generates it's status XML file that drives the web-page.

Because that Odyssey pass happened and the data is VERY much on the ground...

https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/insight/multimedi...0&end_sol=0
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 26 2018, 09:46 PM) *
New image.

QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 26 2018, 09:47 PM) *
Because that Odyssey pass happened and the data is VERY much on the ground...
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/insight/multimedi...0&end_sol=0


That's surprisingly rocky. That's a big effing boulder in the distance. The only concern here is that the mole will hit a big horizontal rock on the way down ...

Based on this (early) animation of the instrument deck and deployment, this view is looking down the arm towards the SOUTH, towards the direction that the instruments will be deployed.
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:54 AM
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The raw image page:

https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/multimedia/ra...mission=insight

shows two versions of the first image taken a few minutes apart. The dust has moved around a bit on it, which will help clean up the image while we wait for that cover to drop off.

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post Nov 27 2018, 02:55 AM
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Not exactly a flat parking lot, I see some good sized rocks.
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post Nov 27 2018, 02:58 AM
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A simple max filter does a good job of showing where the dust isn't between the two frames:
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(Areas covered by dust are dark, so taking the max of the two frames pixel-by-pixel removes it where it's only on one of the two frames.)
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post Nov 27 2018, 03:01 AM
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Well, the text accompanying that image says "looking forward to exploring my new home"
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post Nov 27 2018, 03:02 AM
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Thanks for the DSN Now clarification, Doug. smile.gif


Yeah, that's...pretty rough in the distance. Could've gotten ugly. Looks like they found a nice sandy patch, though, if the rest of the terrain is like the near part.


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Anyone notice the indentations on the robotic arm cover plate, wonder if they were there before flight ?
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PHIL-O-VISION of the horizon; 10X vertical
~2 degrees tilt to the right - straighten out
This place is flat...
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better PHIL-O-VISION (rotate left 2 degrees before vertical exaggeration)
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post Nov 27 2018, 03:10 AM
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NASA JPL
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2m2 minutes ago

Data from Odyssey indicate @NASAInSight’s solar arrays are open and batteries are charging. The transmission also included this view from the instrument deployment camera, showing the seismometer (left), grapple (center) and robotic arm (right) -----


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post Nov 27 2018, 03:11 AM
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Solar panels are deployed and batteries are charging.

https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1067253443339776000

Edit: jinxed by Phil

This post has been edited by Tom Tamlyn: Nov 27 2018, 03:12 AM
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