Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
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Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
May 22 2009, 06:07 AM
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May 22 2009, 03:53 PM
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May 22 2009, 05:05 PM
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EDIT: For what the 'real' ISIL will use for its soil testing...I'd say that they have that well in-hand and will come up with a perfect match based on the data they get from the Rover's IDD analysis. The nice thing about my flour-cinnamon version is that I can make a cake afterwards to celebrate the fact that Spirit has become 'unstuck'.
[/quote] Two words seem relevant here: silica gel. |
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May 22 2009, 05:32 PM
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It seems that Spirit has caught a DD in stereo:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...DPP1840L0M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...DPP1840R0M1.JPG -------------------- "I can easily see still in my mind’s-eye the beautiful clusters of these berries as they appeared to me..., when I came upon an undiscovered bed of them... – the rich clusters drooping in the shade there and bluing all the ground" -- Thoreau
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May 22 2009, 07:15 PM
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I am putting a copy picture and draw with a yellow line to circle the suspected pond of basalt-silica surface. I selected the draw yellow line because the altered surface basalt-silica is inside of a small pond where the water chemical reaction might have happened. I might be wrong!
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May 23 2009, 02:02 AM
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May 23 2009, 03:26 AM
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May 23 2009, 11:54 AM
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As I look at these pictures, I really have to give credit to the mission planners who obviously were afraid to come this route. To my eye it looks completely innocuous. If we had seen terrain like this up on Husband Hill I wouldn't have given it a second thought. And yet, obviously, the team spent a couple of months trying to go around HP the other way. When Opportunity gets into difficulty it is always while traversing obvious sand traps, but here the "cinnamon" layer looks quite safe. The presence of the slippery flour/silica material underneath must really test a rover driver's intuition.
With the passage of enough time I hope the newly-disrupted material around the wheels will consolidate itself and allow just enough traction to push away from the high-center spot. It seems impossible to high-center the vehicle by more than a hair's breadth because as soon as effective traction is lost it becomes difficult to make the situation worse as well as better. Given enough time the wind may come to our rescue once again as stray sand grains consolidate around the wheels - I just wish I knew whether it would take a few weeks or a few million years. |
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May 23 2009, 12:29 PM
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Looks like Richard Hendricks's driving at night idea is the kind of thing the MER team are considering (according to the recent npr podcast). I missed his post when skimming through the thread on wednesday which is why I posted the same idea on a previous page.
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May 23 2009, 12:44 PM
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May 24 2009, 12:02 AM
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May 24 2009, 02:27 AM
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credit to the mission planners who obviously were afraid to come this route. To my eye it looks completely innocuous. My thoughts entirely! I've looked and relooked at the photos of where Spirit is bogged quite a few times and - to me - it looks essentially no different from the harder ground around it. It's nobody's fault Spirit got bogged. |
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May 24 2009, 01:00 PM
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With Spirit snuggled down so close to the ground right now and with the web so close to the soil(or possibly touching), and power rising, is there any concern that Spirits' thermal danger thresholds might get reached sooner than under normal circumstances? (thinks back to the laptop he once burned up by leaving it on the carpet).
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May 25 2009, 03:20 AM
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May 25 2009, 03:27 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 6501 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Sharp-eyed observation, Alan!
I wonder if this was one of those wheel motor current tests; looks like it rotated just a couple of degrees at most. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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