New Horizons: Approach Phase, OpsNav - 25 January 15 to 28 June 15 |
New Horizons: Approach Phase, OpsNav - 25 January 15 to 28 June 15 |
Jun 11 2015, 12:51 AM
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#256
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Member Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: 8-June 04 Member No.: 80 |
Could the albedo variations on Pluto be caused by clouds? I ask because Pluto does have an atmosphere though it is tenuous.
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Jun 11 2015, 01:37 AM
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#257
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10164 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
It's not just tenuous, it makes Mars look like Venus in comparison (post may not be 100% hyperbole-free). So no, not likely at all that real clouds could be present - thin atmospheric hazes maybe, probably only visible above the limb. These brightness variations are most likely to be variations in surface ice cover. But we explore because we don't know, so we could be surprised.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 11 2015, 03:29 AM
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#258
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 12-February 12 Member No.: 6336 |
Oh there might not be any more atmospheric pressure than what was found at Triton. So no clouds, but as it is freezing out there should be some haze yes. But the cameras might not catch it since this ghost of an atmosphere is stirred by Charon and a whisp of it might even wrap also that largest satellite at times.
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Jun 11 2015, 04:19 AM
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#259
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Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 19-February 05 Member No.: 173 |
Oh there might not be any more atmospheric pressure than what was found at Triton. So no clouds, but as it is freezing out there should be some haze yes. But the cameras might not catch it since this ghost of an atmosphere is stirred by Charon and a whisp of it might even wrap also that largest satellite at times. Pluto's base atmospheric pressure is about like the Earth's mesopause....where noctilucent and polar mesospheric clouds form. I would not so quickly discount the possibility of condensation clouds and/or aerosol hazes-- we will see. |
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Jun 11 2015, 11:35 AM
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#260
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Member Group: Members Posts: 362 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Malta Member No.: 741 |
I recall the Uranus and Neptune flybys back in the 80 s. At the time I had to check any info from TV programmes covering the events and there weren't many. This day and age when you get social media and blogs It will be much easier to follow the Pluto flyby and the experience of such an encounter even more thrilling and exciting. Enjoy the ride. Thank you Alan Stern and NH team for this opportunity!
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Jun 11 2015, 01:53 PM
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#261
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 12-February 12 Member No.: 6336 |
Pluto's base atmospheric pressure is about like the Earth's mesopause....where noctilucent and polar mesospheric clouds form. I would not so quickly discount the possibility of condensation clouds and/or aerosol hazes-- we will see. Thank you for your correction Alan. And I should have known since I have indeed seen noctilucent clouds a number of times, and over the years even gotten some nice images of a few. Yet, I did not discount haze, we'll have to wait and see. =) |
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Jun 11 2015, 02:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 27-September 10 Member No.: 5458 |
Latest from yesterday.
Edit: Failed to disclose this image was processed with a histogram adjustment and a max entropy deconvolution process set to low impact. -------------------- |
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Jun 11 2015, 03:49 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 5-September 07 Member No.: 3662 |
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Jun 11 2015, 04:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 813 Joined: 8-February 04 From: Arabia Terra Member No.: 12 |
So incredibly cool in every sense of the word...
I'm running Eyes On The Solar System 24/7 at the moment. Just fun to ride along and watch the distance tick down. |
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Jun 11 2015, 05:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1639 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Indeed any clouds/haze would have to be pretty optically thick to be so bright at this low of a phase angle. One might also compare what the atmospheric pressure is high up on Titan where the haze starts to become optically thick, as a rough analog.
Any chance that polar ice brightness could be enhanced by a slight sun glint effect? The geometry appears to be somewhat favorable if we consider a bi-directional reflectance function (BRDF). -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Jun 11 2015, 07:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
Extended my latest Pluto/Charon raw image animations to include today's images; so now they go through 5-11 June, roughly covering one rotation for Pluto and Charon. The growth of Charon's apparent size is visible as the animation restarts, as is the acceleration of the growth of Pluto's apparent size.
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Jun 11 2015, 09:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
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Jun 11 2015, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2086 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Media schedule is out now; quite busy!
http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-ann...for-pluto-flyby For some reason that makes it even more real, that this is actually happening... time to dust off the ol' swear jar soon! |
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Jun 11 2015, 10:17 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10164 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Here is a different processing of the deconvolved frames, greatly exaggerating brightness variations to show subtle features.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 11 2015, 11:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 27-September 10 Member No.: 5458 |
So I'm confused about their animation. I see it and it appears that it rotates correctly as an animation but not like other images we've been seeing. Has this just been rotated to the right 90 degrees? It looks like, and they even annotate it as if NH is approaching Pluto right in its equatorial plane. Completely confused here.
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