Ingenuity- Mars 2020 Helicopter, Deployment & Operations |
Ingenuity- Mars 2020 Helicopter, Deployment & Operations |
Feb 5 2024, 07:59 PM
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Feb 12 2024, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
The story of Ingenuity by Eric Berger is really informative : https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/befor...ged-to-kill-it/
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Feb 12 2024, 08:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
The story of Ingenuity by Eric Berger is really informative... Informative, perhaps, but is it true? Well, it might depend on one's perspective. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Feb 22 2024, 02:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 9-May 21 From: Germany Member No.: 9017 |
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Feb 25 2024, 01:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 3-June 04 From: Brittany, France Member No.: 79 |
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Feb 25 2024, 04:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-October 06 From: Maynard Mass USA Member No.: 1241 |
nice work Thomas!
is it me ...or are there only 3 long rotors (including shadows)? -------------------- CLA CLL
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Feb 25 2024, 04:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 3-June 04 From: Brittany, France Member No.: 79 |
Thanks!
Yes, one rotor blade is missing. It was most probably broken when Ingenuity impacted the ground. -------------------- |
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Feb 25 2024, 08:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-October 06 From: Maynard Mass USA Member No.: 1241 |
Sol 1072 Ingenuity -- Final Landing Field
Over use of adding layers - high pass filters, auto hist ... a little harsh -------------------- CLA CLL
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Feb 25 2024, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
A prize for anyone finding the missing rotor? Or is it embedded in the sand next to the 'copter?
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Feb 25 2024, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
Old news, the missing rotor is off to the left: https://twitter.com/stim3on/status/17545634...h9-LBw&s=08
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Feb 26 2024, 01:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-October 06 From: Maynard Mass USA Member No.: 1241 |
Mike is right, the missing rotor is off to the left of the 'copter
.... but... I conjecture that the helicopter rotors spun into the sand ridge in the 'box' (the scars are there?) and somehow, Ingenuity corkscrewed over to the nearer ridge and "stuck the landing", minus a rotor that flew off between the ridges (left). The Route Map gurus could probably give us the distance/height. ... as always, I could be wrong... -------------------- CLA CLL
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Feb 26 2024, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
I conjecture that the helicopter rotors spun into the sand ridge in the 'box' (the scars are there?) and somehow, Ingenuity corkscrewed over to the nearer ridge... Those marks look unrelated to me. The simplest explanation is that the heli flew into the ground at an angle ("CFIT") and broke the blades, but the landing gear stance was large enough and the CG low enough that the usual tipover was avoided and it stayed upright while the rotors spun down. There's no need to invoke more complex gymnastics IMHO. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Feb 26 2024, 05:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 9-May 21 From: Germany Member No.: 9017 |
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Feb 26 2024, 05:46 PM
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Feb 26 2024, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1043 Joined: 17-February 09 Member No.: 4605 |
Those marks look unrelated to me. The simplest explanation is that the heli flew into the ground at an angle ("CFIT") and broke the blades,..... Yes, the blade end position and nearby impact mark indicate a straight line to Ingenuity's position. But the actual impact sequence is less clear. There seem to be two blade collision points (upper and lower?) and the left side of the solar panel is pushed down 90 degrees. Hard to see anything but a strike by an upper blade segment causing that and Tau's image seems to reveal only the inner section of the blade. Carbon fibre is strong and light but the blade tip speed is around 240mps and the velocity squared dominates in kinetic energy. I may be missing something but the impact outcomes on the blade seem complex, possibly a bend fracture then break at both the bend and the blade root, all at an impressive rotational velocity. Is there a missing part of the blade hiding somewhere? |
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