Perseverance Imagery, technical discussion of processing, cameras, etc. |
Perseverance Imagery, technical discussion of processing, cameras, etc. |
Mar 9 2021, 10:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2429 Joined: 30-January 13 From: Penang, Malaysia. Member No.: 6853 |
Sol 18: Our first image from the SHERLOC/WATSON camera with its lens cap open
I did Bayer reconstruction of the raw image using GIMP with the add-on filter 'G'MIC-Qt' The image data drop out was seen on some of the earlier images with the lens cap closed, but in a different place, so hopefully not a problem. I noted that no focus motor count was issued on the raw page so it's not possible to establish the distance to the target or estimate the scale like we could do for MAHLI. Maybe that data will be in the JSON details? Raw image |
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Mar 9 2021, 10:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
I see no motor count at the json details page for that image:
https://mars.nasa.gov/rss/api/?feed=raw_ima...LC08001_0000LUJ The filter name field just says "open". |
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Mar 9 2021, 11:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 25-February 21 From: Waltham, Massachussetts, U.S.A. Member No.: 8974 |
Here is the full json in case something jumps out:
CODE {
"image": [ { "extended": { "mastAz": "307.733", "mastEl": "-20.2427", "sclk": "668555815.086", "scaleFactor": "1", "xyz": "(39.3213,34.1703,-0.00444177)", "subframeRect": "(1,1,1648,1200)", "dimension": "(1648,1200)" }, "link_related_sol": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/?sol=18", "sol": 18, "attitude": "(0.812911,-0.0114458,0.0116122,0.582159)", "json_link_related_sol": "https://mars.nasa.gov/rss/api/?feed=raw_images&category=mars2020&feedtype=json&sol=18", "image_files": { "medium": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00018/ids/edr/browse/shrlc/SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ02_800.jpg", "small": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00018/ids/edr/browse/shrlc/SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ02_320.jpg", "full_res": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00018/ids/edr/browse/shrlc/SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ02.png", "large": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00018/ids/edr/browse/shrlc/SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ02_1200.jpg" }, "imageid": "SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ", "camera": { "filter_name": "OPEN", "camera_vector": "(0.5740789607042541,-0.7421743420005331,0.3458476441336543)", "camera_model_component_list": "(2.08195,-0.111422,-1.69411);(0.577631,-0.741337,0.341707);(-1801.91,-2368.23,291.421);(946.46,-1240.2,-2497.62);(0.580824,-0.747997,0.321164);(0.000473,-0.032613,0.136778)", "camera_position": "(2.08195,-0.111422,-1.69411)", "instrument": "SHERLOC_WATSON", "camera_model_type": "CAHVOR" }, "caption": "NASA's Mars Perseverance rover acquired this image using its SHERLOC WATSON camera, located on the turret at the end of the rover's robotic arm. \n\nThis image was acquired on Mar. 9, 2021 (Sol 18) at the local mean solar time of 17:13:24.", "sample_type": "Full", "date_taken_mars": "Sol-00018M17:13:24.434", "credit": "NASA/JPL-Caltech", "date_taken_utc": "2021-03-09T17:56:16.000", "link": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/?id=SI0_0018_0668555815_008ECM_N0030578SRLC08001_0000LUJ", "link_related_camera": "https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/?camera=SHERLOC_WATSON&sol=18", "drive": "578", "title": "Mars Perseverance Sol 18: WATSON Camera ", "site": 3, "date_received": "2021-03-09T18:26:55Z" } ], "type": "mars2020-imagedetail-1.1", "mission": "mars2020" } -------------------- --
Andreas Plesch, andreasplesch at gmail dot com |
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Mar 10 2021, 03:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 14-November 11 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 6237 |
If "camera_position" is correct at (2.08195,-0.111422,-1.69411) then WATSON's eyeball would be a fairly high 1.7m off the ground, and out ~1m in front of the body, just left (port) of centerline.
(For ref, in RNAV frame z=0 is ~ground level, positive down; hazcams are at x~ +1.1, z~ -0.7 and navcam at z~ -1.9.) An FOV of 37 deg diag would give about 1.1m diagonal in the image if pointed straight down. However if the axis in CAHVOR is correct then it's pointed ~20 deg below horizontal (it works out to match the "mast" azimuth & elevation values). Not convinced either of these is right - or my math, for that matter. |
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Mar 10 2021, 10:41 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 28-February 21 Member No.: 8978 |
What is the current best method for downloading all of the raw png files from all cameras?
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Mar 10 2021, 03:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2517 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
If "camera_position" is correct at (2.08195,-0.111422,-1.69411) then WATSON's eyeball would be a fairly high 1.7m off the ground... That looks wrong to me, I suspect a bug somewhere. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Mar 10 2021, 05:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 18-June 04 Member No.: 84 |
Ah I didnt realise we wouldn't be seeing SUPERCAM RAW images like we did with Curiosity
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Mar 10 2021, 09:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: 18-July 06 Member No.: 981 |
What is the current best method for downloading all of the raw png files from all cameras? https://rkinnett.github.io/roverpics/ Firefox/DownThemAll is a great combo and you can get the actual JSON files or just the URLs. Great service! |
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Mar 10 2021, 11:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
if the axis in CAHVOR is correct then it's pointed ~20 deg below horizontal (it works out to match the "mast" azimuth & elevation values) Using the camera_vector and attitude quaternion gives el,az = -19.3,19.5 deg in the LL frame (so az is relative to north), so the azimuth is quite different from the mastAz value. My guess is that mastEl and mastAz are for the RNAV frame (elevations are pretty close since the rover was close to level). |
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Mar 11 2021, 08:02 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 6-August 20 Member No.: 8852 |
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Mar 11 2021, 08:06 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 6-August 20 Member No.: 8852 |
Hello, there is no response when clicking Export selected image URLs.
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Mar 11 2021, 08:07 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 6-August 20 Member No.: 8852 |
https://rkinnett.github.io/roverpics/ Firefox/DownThemAll is a great combo and you can get the actual JSON files or just the URLs. Great service! Hello, there is no response when clicking Export selected image URLs. |
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Mar 11 2021, 01:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
QUOTE What software is there? Fast and easy? i use Gmic's built in program " bayer2rgb" https://gmic.eu/ it is a commandline tool CODE gmic InputImage.png bayer2rgb 1,1,1 -o OutputImage.png now they will be a bit "yellow/green" do to the contrast stretch that these png's have had done to them |
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Mar 11 2021, 05:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
The goals of a panoramic color camera and astrophotography are in many ways diametrically opposed. (That said, that image of Phobos and Deimos is simply awesome.) For imaging Phobos, Earth, Jupiter, etc. from Mars and getting the most impressive results, you'd want an instrument very different from Mastcam-Z. And for obvious reasons, that's not what this mission is about.
To do astrophotography from Mars (where, I imagine, the "seeing" would almost always be excellent due to the low pressure) the ideal instrument would be the same as on Earth – a big aperture on the telescope and a small pixel count, just big enough to capture the object of interest. Lots of area means your system is capturing meaningless data when you're looking at a small object surrounded by empty sky. (Some camera software allows you to capture just a small window of a larger frame; I have one with that capability, but I don't think there's any reason why you'd want that on Mars.) Color via a monochrome sensor and the ability to move different filters in front of it… Bayer color automatically reduces your resolution by about 1.5. It'd be fun to see what a ~20 cm aperture telescope could do from Mars, but I think we can imagine… take pictures of Jupiter as seen by amateurs on Earth and improve the resolution about 2x. It'd be amazing. Almost Voyager quality. Pictures of Earth would have about half the resolution of pictures of Mars as seen from Earth (because you'd only be looking at Earth's night side when the planets are closest). But I don't see this sort of add-on justifying the cost anytime soon. |
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Mar 11 2021, 06:36 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
i use Gmic's built in program " bayer2rgb" I must admit - I've found Gmic's debayer performance to be pretty ugly - especially at the edge of images. I've been using PIPP which can batch debayer images and I've been very pleased with the results https://sites.google.com/site/astropipp/ |
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