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ESA Laplace, Mission to Jupiter and Europa
MarcF
post Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM
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I just read in a French astronomical magazine (Ciel et Espace) about the next proposals for future ESA missions (window 2015-2025), and especially about the Laplace mission to Jupiter and Europa.
Some info might be found here: http://jupiter-europa.cesr.fr/
Like Bepi Colombo, the mission should be composed of several spacecrafts: a Jupiter Planetary Orbiter (JPO), a Jupiter Magnetospheric Orbiter (JMO) and a Jupiter Europa Orbiter (JEO), and may be even an Europa lander.
Of course this would be done in collaboration with Nasa and Japan.
I read also about a collaboration with the JUNO spacecraft.
Any chance this will once become a reality ?
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edstrick
post Oct 1 2007, 09:00 AM
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I'd have to dig out <can't get at it now> The NASA SP publication on asteroids from about 1970 that was the first prototype of a Univ of Arizona Press Space Science monster conference volume. Ideas like Dawn were well studied at a sketch level then. It was abundantly clear that the only good way to explore the belt with plausible technology was with ion drive missions.
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post Nov 3 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 1 2007, 05:00 PM) *
I'd have to dig out <can't get at it now> The NASA SP publication on asteroids from about 1970 that was the first prototype of a Univ of Arizona Press Space Science monster conference volume. Ideas like Dawn were well studied at a sketch level then. It was abundantly clear that the only good way to explore the belt with plausible technology was with ion drive missions.


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NASA was looking at 'Solar Electric' (Ion Drive) missions from the early 60's to about the early/mid 70's, they even considered using them to get to Jupiter and to perform Ulysses style missions above the ecliptic.

See Study of a common solar-electric-propulsion upper stage for high-energy unmanned missions. Volume 2 - Technical Final report(14mb) for all the details of the planned 'mission bus'.

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post Nov 4 2007, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (gndonald @ Nov 3 2007, 03:34 PM) *
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NASA was looking at 'Solar Electric' (Ion Drive) missions from the early 60's to about the early/mid 70's, they even considered using them to get to Jupiter and to perform Ulysses style missions above the ecliptic.

See Study of a common solar-electric-propulsion upper stage for high-energy unmanned missions. Volume 2 - Technical Final report(14mb) for all the details of the planned 'mission bus'.

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The original European proposal for the out-of-the-ecliptic mission was also to be electric engine powered. This image is taken from a ESRO document of 1972
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- MarcF   ESA Laplace   Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM
- - tasp   Easy to propose a mission. A tad harder to ...   Sep 27 2007, 01:22 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (MarcF @ Sep 27 2007, 11:39 AM) Any...   Sep 27 2007, 02:54 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 27 2007, 04:54 PM) Oh ye...   Sep 27 2007, 05:58 PM
- - elakdawalla   I have some notes from Gerhard Schwehm's prese...   Sep 27 2007, 05:16 PM
- - remcook   Right now the cosmic visions programme has made it...   Sep 27 2007, 07:10 PM
- - edstrick   Europe is now willing and able to fly what are ess...   Sep 28 2007, 09:28 AM
- - Mariner9   Bepi-Columbo is a great mission, but it was in pre...   Sep 29 2007, 06:26 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Sep 29 2007, 08:26 PM) ...   Sep 29 2007, 07:12 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Sep 29 2007, 02:26 PM) ...   Nov 1 2007, 03:07 AM
- - Paolo   You forgot a relatively small mission, the Solar O...   Sep 29 2007, 07:10 PM
- - edstrick   I'd have to dig out <can't get at it no...   Oct 1 2007, 09:00 AM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 1 2007, 05:00 PM) I...   Nov 3 2007, 02:34 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (gndonald @ Nov 3 2007, 03:34 PM) ...   Nov 4 2007, 07:45 PM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (Paolo @ Nov 5 2007, 04:45 AM) The ...   Nov 5 2007, 01:34 AM
- - ngunn   TANDEM has its own site with lots of detailed note...   Nov 1 2007, 11:22 AM
|- - power   QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 1 2007, 12:22 PM) TAND...   Nov 20 2007, 02:31 PM
- - vjkane   I am beginning to doubt that ESA will pick either ...   Nov 4 2007, 05:00 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (vjkane @ Nov 4 2007, 12:00 PM) ......   Nov 4 2007, 10:07 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Nov 4 2007, 10:07 PM) I...   Nov 5 2007, 04:23 AM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (vjkane @ Nov 4 2007, 11:23 PM) As ...   Nov 5 2007, 01:14 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (vjkane @ Nov 4 2007, 11:23 PM) I t...   Nov 5 2007, 01:21 PM
- - vjkane   A modest proposal: The concurrent consideration o...   Nov 5 2007, 04:09 PM
- - ngunn   That's exactly the scenario I've been quie...   Nov 5 2007, 05:00 PM
- - djellison   Which of the two (Jovian or Saturnian) splits up t...   Nov 5 2007, 05:40 PM
|- - vjkane   full inline quote removed - Doug If I remember th...   Nov 5 2007, 06:27 PM
- - ngunn   Interestingly while TANDEM seems to be ahead of La...   Nov 20 2007, 04:19 PM
- - djellison   I assume Ralph et.al. are still working on theirs....   Nov 20 2007, 04:22 PM
- - ngunn   I assume so too, but I note that Ralph Lorenz, Jon...   Nov 21 2007, 10:13 PM
- - Geographer   It seems pertinent to suggest ESA and NASA should ...   Nov 22 2007, 02:00 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Geographer @ Nov 22 2007, 02:00 PM...   Nov 22 2007, 02:05 PM
- - mps   Russia is to participate in the Laplace mission. R...   Jan 8 2008, 11:39 AM
- - nprev   A lander, no less!!! Well...we can...   Jan 8 2008, 12:16 PM
- - vjkane   Getting a mission into the $2B frame that NAS...   Jan 8 2008, 07:08 PM


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