Sol 22 and after, Digging in Wonderland |
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Sol 22 and after, Digging in Wonderland |
 Jun 19 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 19 2008, 07:49 AM)  Can you dig it? Sol 24 trench widening. Looks like a nice chunk of white stuff has been excavated into the lower pile of debris. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jun 19 2008, 05:17 PM
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Color shot of the work area and scoop:
 There definitely is some differently colored soil down there. At least more gray than the rest, possibly bluish-greenish after all. Dan, I think you've mistaken a part of sunlit soil in Phil's image as white stuff. -------------------- |
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Jun 19 2008, 05:35 PM
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Loving this new trench...!
Q: just wondering... was this 'scratch' caused by the rasp?
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Jun 19 2008, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 19 2008, 09:17 AM) Dan, I think you've mistaken a part of sunlit soil in Phil's image as white stuff. Agreed. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jun 19 2008, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Pando @ Jun 17 2008, 07:01 PM) To me, it looks like the tool has scraped across a flat hard surface... Perhaps you were on to something - from Lemmon's directory: QUOTE Sol 024: Resume operations, dig Snow White 2, hit hard stuff
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Jun 19 2008, 10:48 PM
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I spent over an hour attempting to fill in the 3 gaps in the stereo image released this morning, only to have Phoenix downlink a better version soon after. Anyway, here is the exercise in futility:
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Jun 19 2008, 11:57 PM
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I wonder why a greater percentage of images than usual are suffering from data loss in transit. Is this a Phoenix, Odyssey, MRO, or DSN problem?
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Jun 20 2008, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jun 19 2008, 02:42 PM) There is just a 3x2 section to complete the horizon pan, the actual horizon bit (3x1) was taken on sol 22 but I believe lost due to the anomaly. Four pointings of the near field were also taken and downlinked on sol 21. I suspect we'll get most of the remaining data with the 'most-data-rich-sol-ever' going on tosol as a result of the anomaly. James Awesome! -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2008, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (jekbradbury @ Jun 20 2008, 12:57 AM) I wonder why a greater percentage of images than usual are suffering from data loss in transit. Is this a Phoenix, Odyssey, MRO, or DSN problem? It's probably the link between Phoenix and Odyssey. While there is a automatic re-transmission protocol (Go-back N per CCSDS Proximity standards), there was a implementation "feature" (error) where in some rare occassions some packets are dropped. Same happens between the MERs and Odyssey, since the UHF radio is the same. Drop-out can also happen between Orbiter and Earth if the signal-to-noise ratio drops below threshold (too much rain, wind, mispoint, eats all the margin) but this happens much less frequently. |
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Jun 20 2008, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (jekbradbury @ Jun 20 2008, 12:57 AM) I wonder why a greater percentage of images than usual are suffering from data loss in transit. Is this a Phoenix, Odyssey, MRO, or DSN problem? Due to the Flash anomaly, they've added extra UHF passes. Perhaps some of these extra passes are less than optimal (low elevation etc.). |
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Jun 20 2008, 09:12 PM
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Jun 21 2008, 01:48 AM
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I've made a sol-by-sol comparison of the Dodo-Goldilocks area showing surface activities. Some of the images are fudged a bit, but it gives the idea.
Phil
-------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 21 2008, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Oersted @ Jun 21 2008, 10:02 AM) Man, I really think this discovery, or rather confirmation, demands a new thread, something entitled "it IS ice"... Agreed, moved posts to Water Ice Confirmed! -------------------- |
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Jun 21 2008, 02:17 PM
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Using Phil's side-by-side comparison, here is the first and only definitive sol 5-20 über-animation (of doom).
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Jun 21 2008, 06:29 PM
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Nice!
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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