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It looks like we possibly found a way OUT of Victory! Take a look and tell me what you think?
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Jan 15 2007, 07:10 PM
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If we go in through one bay and plan to come out through another, what's the sanity level for navigating around the base of the capes? Considering slope, sand, rock hazards, and so forth.
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Jan 15 2007, 09:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2816 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Ridderkerk, Netherlands Member No.: 353 |
Here is the complete 360 degree panoramic view from Sol 1058.
Taken with the L0 Navcam. jvandriel
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Jan 15 2007, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (Airbag @ Jan 15 2007, 05:18 PM)  That big layered rock at the bottom of the nearby cliff looks accessible to the IDD as the ground below it is not sloping as much as just upslope of it. Certainly no more "roll" slope there than Opportunity already encountered in Endurance crater. Of course, Opportunity would have to get there via some other bay I think and then climb back up to this point. All speculation of course. The choice of the place to enter the crater could be dictated by what you point out here BUT anylising a fallen "rock" will only benefit if you know for sure where it come from. This is hard from where we are so, the option will be to get it anyway so you'll have more infos of where the rock come from by comparing the veiw from the outside with the view from the inside. Now, I wonder of the interest of anylising felt rock because you must have the same info on the way down throught a bay. Benefict could may be to compare the same layer within a Bay and within a Cape... -------------------- |
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Jan 15 2007, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (climber @ Jan 15 2007, 11:24 PM) The choice of the place to enter the crater could be dictated by what you point out here BUT anylising a fallen "rock" will only benefit if you know for sure where it come from. This is hard from where we are so, the option will be to get it anyway so you'll have more infos of where the rock come from by comparing the veiw from the outside with the view from the inside. Now, I wonder of the interest of anylising felt rock because you must have the same info on the way down throught a bay. Benefict could may be to compare the same layer within a Bay and within a Cape... The benefit of rocks in the scree slope below the bluffs is that they are right in front of you, instead of halfway up a vertical wall. You can RAT the dust off, and get a good, long look... Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jan 16 2007, 12:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2917 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 16 2007, 12:57 AM) The benefit of rocks in the scree slope below the bluffs is that they are right in front of you, instead of halfway up a vertical wall. You can RAT the dust off, and get a good, long look... Bob Shaw I agree on this Bob, I just says that if you don't know exactely where they come from, interest is less. -------------------- |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:17 AM
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Here is jvandriel's 1058 pan in polar form.
Replying to Diane - we have to go in, but I'm not sure if there is a sanity level for driving round one of the capes! And regarding scree - outcrops are better than scree because you know where a sample came from - as was said - but on the other hand the multispectral and miniTES can help resolve those issues as well. Phil
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Jan 16 2007, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE (climber @ Jan 15 2007, 06:24 PM) The choice of the place to enter the crater could be dictated by what you point out here BUT anylising a fallen "rock" will only benefit if you know for sure where it come from. This is hard from where we are so, the option will be to get it anyway so you'll have more infos of where the rock come from by comparing the veiw from the outside with the view from the inside. Now, I wonder of the interest of anylising felt rock because you must have the same info on the way down throught a bay. Benefict could may be to compare the same layer within a Bay and within a Cape... No, that is not the rock I was refering to. I was refering to one of the larger pieces that make up the cliff itself; one of the presumed aeolian deposit ones. Its origin is quite clear - it is holding up the cliff and has not gone anywhere (yet). You can see the slope is markedly less right in front of that one; that was my point. All the other "lower cliff" units we have seen so far have had steep slopes next to them. Airbag |
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Jan 16 2007, 03:45 AM
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Sol 1058
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Jan 16 2007, 06:19 AM
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Thanks for the updates. Some of us were eagerly awaiting them.
 MarsIsImportant: Regarding the exit ramp, I think I can see it, as long as that is also the entrance ramp. Like others, I would still be concerned about negotiating any of the major capes adjacent to it. Still, It does appear to be a place entry and exit might be possible. -------------------- ...Tom
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Jan 16 2007, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jan 15 2007, 11:55 AM) It looks like we possibly found a way OUT of Victory! Take a look and tell me what you think? And why is that? |
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Jan 16 2007, 05:38 PM
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Few activities (if any) tosol at VC, isn't it?
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Jan 16 2007, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Jan 16 2007, 04:45 AM) Sol 1058 Thanks, Michael. I know Phil already produced the polar projection, here I add also vertical one (2.5cm/pixel):
-------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Jan 17 2007, 12:37 AM
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I really love those polar projections from Dilo and others.
Here's my take on it. "Opportunity on a Fractured World"
Enjoy Astro0 PS: The rover image came from another UMSF'ers rendering. Sorry I can't remember who. |
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Jan 17 2007, 07:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
These are the planned sequences for sol 1060 and 1061:
- Color/stereo (L257R2) mosaic of Cape Desire - Drive to a new position - 180º navcam mosaic centered at 45º This post has been edited by Tesheiner: Jan 17 2007, 09:28 AM |
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