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Updated Titan Map
JRehling
post Dec 21 2006, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 19 2006, 10:14 PM) *
Hmmm... not *all* of the worlds in that range, since Venus and Earth are of near-identical size and mass. Earth has a lot of tectonic activity, but its shattered crust seems to exert more control over the orientation of rifts and crustal cracking than whatever it is on these other worlds that causes equatorial tectonics.

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Yeah, but Earth is *slightly* out of the Titan-to-Venus size range... smile.gif

To address Juramike's post, it's unclear why Venus and Earth have evolved so differently, but one suggestion is that Earth's ocean is a critical difference, because metamorphic rock formed when lava meets water is inherently lighter and softer than that formed when lava erupts onto a solid surface. As small as the ocean is compared to the bulk of the mantle below it, that may change everything, creating soft, light continental plates that form on top of the heavier slabs of ocean crust.

It's clear that Earth tends to dispose of its inner heat via horizontal movement of its crust while on Venus convection is more vertical. Earth lets a little heat out all the time whereas Venus seems to have rare global meltdowns when the crustal lid gets too much heat built up underneath it. The ocean difference is a plausible explanation.

Because Earth's heat dissipation involves the horizontal displacement of crust, "aboriginal" patterns have been obliterating by the wandering of plates, whereas on Mars, Ganymede, and possibly Titan, some of the ancient crustal landmasses are still there relatively intact with some considerable tectonism having reworked large portions of the surface.

Venus's case is different: The surface there is "ancient", but only about 700 million years old, showing the scars formed since then. The oldest surfaces of Mars and Ganymede are very roughly 3.5 and 4 billion years old, respectively. As for Titan, that's not clear, but there is more than just geology going on there, so on the small scale, we can't expect anything ancient. However, the large scale features (Xanadu, Tsegihi, etc.) may be quite old, and my bet is that they are, simply because Titan's large-scale features look more like Mars's than Earth's.
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post Dec 28 2006, 07:24 PM
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Please, please, please, can we have an updated map?

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post Dec 28 2006, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (jsheff @ Dec 28 2006, 12:24 PM) *
Please, please, please, can we have an updated map?

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post Dec 28 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 28 2006, 12:56 PM) *
Patience, it's not the end of the year yet.


Are you going to release the same map that you showed me once upon a time? Just curious, that's all.
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post Dec 28 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 28 2006, 09:05 PM) *
Are you going to release the same map that you showed me once upon a time? Just curious, that's all.

Now see, THAT is not fair. You could have easily PM-ed him asking the same thing, but you wanted to "subtly" let the rest of us know you've seen the map as well. Not being a very good sport. mad.gif


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post Dec 28 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2006, 01:09 PM) *
Now see, THAT is not fair. You could have easily PM-ed him asking the same thing, but you wanted to "subtly" let the rest of us know you've seen the map as well. Not being a very good sport. mad.gif


Actually, I could have waited for a few hours until he shows up here and ask him in person (We work in the same room and share an office that neither of us uses), but... It happens though when you share a room, he shows me pictures of Titan, Mimas, and the other Saturnian moons before they are released to the general public, while I show him pictures of Vikings, MER rovers, cool Martian geography, etc before it's released. It's all a fair trade, just so long as neither of us takes the pictures of the other, but merely looks at them, it's fair enough.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that the map that will be released will be somewhat different, but... There's been a few flybys since that map was created, and there's been some names that have become official that weren't beforehand.
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post Dec 28 2006, 08:23 PM
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I'm perfectly aware you work near each other and are bound to see each others' work before the rest of us get to see it. I still feel that post of yours was more about rubbing our noses than anything else.

Just my 2c.


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post Dec 28 2006, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2006, 10:23 AM) *
I'm perfectly aware you work near each other and are bound to see each others' work before the rest of us get to see it. I still feel that post of yours was more about rubbing our noses than anything else.

Just my 2c.

Hey, Gordan, it could have been worse: tuvas could have teased you with images of Jason showing him the map. With the back of the map facing the camera, natch. tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2006, 08:53 PM
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post Dec 28 2006, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 28 2006, 01:36 PM) *
Hey, Gordan, it could have been worse: tuvas could have teased you with images of Jason showing him the map. With the back of the map facing the camera, natch. tongue.gif


Hey, those images were released only a few hours later to the general public, so...
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post Dec 28 2006, 09:21 PM
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Brilliant, Stu! Brilliant! wink.gif


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post Dec 28 2006, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 28 2006, 01:56 PM) *
Patience, it's not the end of the year yet.

End of year in 78 hours 19 minutes.

Now where is the smiley thats tapping his foot impatiently.
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (alan @ Dec 28 2006, 11:41 PM) *
End of year in 78 hours 19 minutes.

Actually, if we consider there's only one working day left this year, that End-Of-Year might be as well be tomorrow. cool.gif


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post Dec 28 2006, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2006, 08:23 PM) *
I'm perfectly aware you work near each other and are bound to see each others' work before the rest of us get to see it. I still feel that post of yours was more about rubbing our noses than anything else.

Just my 2c.


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post Dec 29 2006, 12:15 AM
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Wow cutie in the front!
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