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Apr 27 2011, 05:24 PM
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#886
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Sorry for silly question, why I still cannot see >1000 Kepler planets on any public Exoplanet database like following ones?
http://exoplanets.org/ http://exoplanet.eu/index.php http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/ Perhaps because they still unconfirmed "candidates" or what else? Moreover, I see lot of posts containing data/plots with these candidates, where can I find original source? -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Apr 27 2011, 05:56 PM
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#887
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
....still unconfirmed "candidates" or what else? That seems to be what the third site you link is saying in a March 7, 2011 news release. "All of Kepler's candidate planets await verification from ground-based observatories." |
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Apr 27 2011, 06:28 PM
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#888
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Thanks, centsworth_II, I missed it... in the meantime, I found also the candidates list:
http://kepler.nasa.gov/Mission/discoveries/candidates/ -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Apr 27 2011, 08:08 PM
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#889
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1420 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
QUOTE ("dilo") Moreover, I see lot of posts containing data/plots with these candidates, where can I find original source? QUOTE ("Hungry4info") One could just look through the paper that listed all 1,235 planet candidates, their radii, and the radii of their host stars...
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0541 -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Apr 27 2011, 09:19 PM
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#890
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Member Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 2-July 05 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 426 |
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Apr 27 2011, 10:28 PM
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#891
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
I've been similarly confused many times. Earth mass Jupiter mass and Solar mass are all regularly used as units for exoplanets and brown dwarfs. They're on a par with 'an area the size of Wales'. How many people actually know the conversions between them? It's a pain. Let's stick to kg.
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Apr 27 2011, 10:49 PM
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#892
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Member Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 279 |
300 Earths is near enough a Jupiter, and 1000 Jupiters just about 1 Sol. It seems to me that Jupiter is reasonably well-placed for defining the relative masses of BDs, smaller stars and giant exoplanets.
The problem with kg is with those pesky scientific notations, and the ease of which you can mentally miscalculate by a magnitude (or two)! Andy |
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May 26 2011, 12:25 PM
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#893
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
As most have heard by now, there have been at least two interesting Kepler announcements at the AAS 218 meeting, one dealing with the abundance of multi-planet systems, the other an announcement of the hot super-earth Kepler 10c. The press releases are available on the Kepler website. The first announcement, "Kepler’s Astounding Haul of Multiple Planet Systems," has a very cool animation showing the systems. The second, "Kepler-10c and a New Method to Validate Planets," discusses the Blender technique of validating candidates. Archives of the presentations, including slides, are available on the site.
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May 26 2011, 09:26 PM
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#894
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Member Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 1-July 05 From: New York City Member No.: 424 |
That seems to be what the third site you link is saying in a March 7, 2011 news release. "All of Kepler's candidate planets await verification from ground-based observatories." "All our candidates is belong to ...." TTT (sorry) |
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May 27 2011, 01:09 AM
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#895
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
This article (refered to in the links above) has an excellent account of what they do to try to validate a candidate planet.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1105/1105.4647v1.pdf I feel I have a much better understanding of why it takes them so long, but it also sounds like (from this and some of the other papers) they've got the hang of it now, so I expect we'll see results coming more quickly now. But there's some GREAT stuff here! --Greg |
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Jun 8 2011, 06:48 AM
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#896
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
Not strictly Kepler related, but MIT recently hosted distinguished speakers who each gave short presentations on the topic of exoplanets. The presentations were recorded and are available for streaming.
http://amps-web.amps.ms.mit.edu/public/EAP...oPlanets-may27/ There are four videos, each about an hour in duration. I've watched the first two. The second video ("Stars and Planets Within our Reach") features Geoff Marcy's opinions on TPF / the decadal survey / NASA in general, and also Sara Seager's CubeSat program "ExoplanetSat" of which I was not previously aware. |
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Jun 18 2011, 01:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
Mission Manager Update arrived today:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/n...m-20110617.html QUOTE The health of the spacecraft and photometer, the instrument used to measure changes in the brightness of distant stars, is excellent and has recorded more than two months of routine operations in this quarter. The observing efficiency in Quarter 9, which is April through June 2011, has been above 97 percent due to two very efficient monthly science data downlinks in April and May-- 16.6 hours and 15.2 hours, the quickest yet! Coupled with no unplanned breaks in collecting science data, it has been a strong quarter so far. [...]
performance of Ka band downlink between the spacecraft and the Deep Space Network ground stations has been excellent. Greater than 99 percent of science data reaches the ground on the first attempt. [...] in May, the team completed a file uplink to the spacecraft to mitigate the root causes of the anomalies encountered during Quarter 8 operations. [...] To date, the downlink rate operates at the maximum Ka band rate of 4.3 Mbps. [...] The latest estimates show the spacecraft is equipped with enough propellant for the thrusters to last for an additional eight years. |
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Jun 18 2011, 11:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 29-August 06 From: Columbia, MD Member No.: 1083 |
Eight years!?!
Awesome! |
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Jun 18 2011, 08:12 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Yes, that's exciting news! We should have a VERY good dataset by end of mission, and ultimately a much more accurate estimate of planetary population than we'd hoped.
Good times, good times. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jun 18 2011, 09:59 PM
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#900
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
Here's to our Kepler and eight more years of successful Kepling!
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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