Rev 120-121 - Oct 23-Nov 30, 2009 - Enceladus E7, E8 |
Rev 120-121 - Oct 23-Nov 30, 2009 - Enceladus E7, E8 |
Nov 22 2009, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Astro0 quote: Here's the artists view. <<<There's your clue right there!
Wonderful - as I wondered how this might look in color. Is this from multi-color imagery or somehow colorized? I did see some color filter images are available. One "analysis" type of thing that can be done is to apply a mapping transformation to the image(s) so we can see where the source regions are (by comparing to the map of fully lit images). I'll see if I can give this a shot. -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Nov 22 2009, 02:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Mare Desiderii Member No.: 563 |
I also don't believe there were any significant pointing anomalies due to the plume passage. There should be an announcement soon about the decision regarding the use of thrusters on orbit 130- I'll check if we're allowed to talk about it here :-) The "Insider's Cassini" that ngunn linked to seems to have answered that: QUOTE Data from E7 actually allow us to baseline the E9 flyby on reaction wheels instead of thrusters.
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Nov 22 2009, 03:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 29-June 05 Member No.: 421 |
I wonder if we might spot sun dogs in the backlight plume images, if we look in the right spot? Water ice crystals give a refraction halo at about 22 degrees. (see e.g. explanation here). Can anyone good with orbit/camera geometry identify if this angle is covered in the Enceladus imagery?
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Nov 22 2009, 04:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 399 Joined: 28-August 07 From: San Francisco Member No.: 3511 |
From these images, would the Cassini team (or UMSF team!) be able to discern if the plume activity has intensified since E6?
Looks... so... alive... -------------------- 'She drove until the wheels fell off...'
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Nov 22 2009, 04:33 PM
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I think i'm Stereo blind
Been staring at the stereo pairs posted here and on the Planetary Society website to no avail. |
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Nov 22 2009, 04:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Tfisher, keep in mind the FOVs of Cassini cameras are 3.5 and 0.35 degrees so without knowing the exact geometry it would be rather difficult to determine whether a halo ring (I'm thinking no sundogs as the particles here are in freefall) crossed a certain image. Obviously, such a halo ring would be pretty diffuse and wide even in wide-angle images and with localized plume emissions I'm not certain how obvious it would be.
One last image from me, this time (yet another!) soft colorization of what has to be my favorite shot of the encounter, N00146847. Just enough to not make it look grayscale, but not to overdo it for realism's sake. The foggy appearance of the scene with the moon's limb cutting sharp shadows across makes it somehow look less alien and more familiar, down to earth. -------------------- |
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Nov 22 2009, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
One "analysis" type of thing that can be done is to apply a mapping transformation to the image(s) so we can see where the source regions are (by comparing to the map of fully lit images). I'll see if I can give this a shot. Here's a mapped version of a plume image at 2K map size. The next step might be converting to polar and blinking on top of the hi-res map. I'll also try this with larger map sizes. Steve |
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Nov 22 2009, 05:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 28-October 08 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 4469 |
I'm late to the party and I have nothing to contribute, but I just can't let the opportunity pass without registering my awe at what I am seeing here. I am stunned. My sincerest thanks to the Cassini team and to all of you for producing these amazing aritifacts.
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Nov 22 2009, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
my favorite shot of the encounter, N00146847. Mine too, and that's a great version of it Gordan. I like the way the curved dark limb and the straight shadow edge on the right are clearly distinguishable. The whole thing gives the deceptive impression of being a wide-angle panorama rather than a telephoto shot. It seems to pull the observer right down there into the airy space where the plumes rise like auroras. |
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Nov 22 2009, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Here's the mapping comparison I mentioned earlier to help locate the plumes on the dark side of the terminator (click to animate):
It's interesting that the forked nature of the left plume appears to have a correspondence with the forked end of Alexandria Sulcus. The more intense spot is where the fork is. The other plume being traced out on the dark side is Cairo Sulcus. Here the really intense spot at the terminator matches a kink in Cairo Sulcus. The original image I used is N146851 so we could in principle proceed to annotate the image with the associated sulci. Steve |
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Nov 22 2009, 07:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I like the way the curved dark limb and the straight shadow edge on the right are clearly distinguishable. First time I saw it, I thought the shadow is the limb and thought no way, look at that relief! Steve, is it me or is the plume image noticeably shifted w/ respect to the basemap? -------------------- |
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Nov 22 2009, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2785 Joined: 10-November 06 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 1345 |
Nice!
-------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Nov 22 2009, 07:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Steve, is it me or is the plume image noticeably shifted w/ respect to the basemap? Gordan - yes I can see a shift in the terrain features too. This is kind of a first attempt at matching the geometry while reprojecting the image. As a quick fix they could be shifted around to fit better - feel free to give that a try. Meanwhile I can see about making some adjustments in the reprojection geometry. There would be an additional shift in the plumes themselves since they of course are above the surface. One can try and extrapolate them down to the surface if you follow the direction of the eruption. Steve |
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Nov 22 2009, 07:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
-------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Nov 22 2009, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1627 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
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