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vjkane
post Feb 28 2022, 04:30 PM
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Per a statement from ESA today, "Regarding the ExoMars programme continuation, the sanctions and the wider context make a launch in 2022 very unlikely. ESA’s Director General will analyse all the options and prepare a formal decision on the way forward by ESA Member States."

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post Feb 28 2022, 07:24 PM
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Thank you, vjkane.

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Steve G
post Mar 17 2022, 08:13 PM
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Here is an update confirming it won't launch this year and possible steps forward.

https://spacenews.com/esa-suspends-work-wit...xomars-mission/

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post Mar 19 2022, 11:21 AM
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I am wondering, if the MAV gets too heavy, what is not unlikely, and thus the SFR would need its own dedicated lander, how realistic is it that it could share it's ride to the Martian surface with its older sister "Rosalind Franklin"? cool.gif
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post Mar 19 2022, 05:24 PM
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MSR has enough problems as it is. And I'm not sure what the point of sending another rover to the same site would be.


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post Jul 12 2022, 08:20 PM
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Since we will not be seeing ExoMars at Oxia Planum any time soon, if ever, the map I made in preparation for landing will not be needed here. But I will share it anyway.

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The names of regions and features (taken from provinces and towns/cities of the Roman Empire at its greatest extent, from Scotland to Egypt) are from this paper:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.108...47.2021.1982035

The landing would be expected in the central portion, on or around Dalmatia Planum.

EDIT: replaced map with a corrected version a few hours after posting.

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post Jul 19 2022, 07:22 AM
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It seems they are really zealous to turn ExoMars into a nerve-wracking hard-sf/suspense/thriller/horror story. dry.gif
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post Jul 19 2022, 09:31 AM
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^ How so?
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post Jul 19 2022, 02:48 PM
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According to the tweets, ESA was going to announce a path forward for Exomars with NASA participation, and that briefing has been delayed. I wasn't able to find any reporting on this other than Twitter, though, so I would view this all with some skepticism.


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post Jul 19 2022, 03:32 PM
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Perhaps the way forward for ExoMars is to look at commercial services. See news release in link.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/rel...s-in-late-2024/

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post Jul 20 2022, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jul 19 2022, 02:48 PM) *
I wasn't able to find any reporting on this other than Twitter, though, so I would view this all with some skepticism.

ESA's press release (also linked in the original tweet) about the cancelled press briefing and delay of further discussions on the Mars exploration programme to November's Ministerial Council. By the way, ESA's fast-track industrial study to better define ExoMars options should be available by now.
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post Nov 4 2023, 07:01 AM
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Gosh, this is a little bit unneighbourly, isn't it?

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Contributions to the Rosalind Franklin ExoMars rover. — The recommendation does not support the requested funding for the Rosalind Franklin ExoMars rover.
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post Nov 4 2023, 01:29 PM
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That's not bipartisan or the actual 2024 budget until a lot more happens.
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post Nov 4 2023, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (stevesliva @ Nov 4 2023, 06:29 AM) *
That's not bipartisan or the actual 2024 budget until a lot more happens.

This seems to have been a complete surprise, and I haven't seen any speculation as to the motivation. As stevesliva says, still many steps ahead.


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