Juno perijove 6, May 19, 2017 |
Juno perijove 6, May 19, 2017 |
May 30 2017, 07:06 PM
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May 30 2017, 10:07 PM
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May 31 2017, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
Candy, I'm glad, that with PJ6 we've been able to provide unexpectedly fantastic images just in time for a press briefing, which has been scheduled independently. This has only been possible in time and in this quality, with a dedicated virtual image processing team forming spontaneously, and with a camera of outstanding quality and performance, including the highly precise work of the Juno nav- and ops teams, and many more people and institutions who are equally important, but mentioned only occasionally.
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May 31 2017, 10:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
I would like to reiterate what Gerald said, as well as mark appreciation for his efforts in interpreting the data & creating the products I use. It has been an interesting week and a particularly intense 48 hours fielding questions. I have also realised how much I have to learn with respect to image processing.
Now, I'm looking forward to what we get from Perijove 07! **rolls up sleeves** -------------------- |
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May 31 2017, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
... there were missing frames toward the end when compared with Gerald's original video... I think, the #124 sequence is missing. I've added this to the previous upload. Did you find any other gaps? The video should be 1:36.04 with 25fps, a total of 2401 frames. |
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May 31 2017, 08:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Thanks Gerald.
I started looking at the cylindrical maps you provided for PJ04 & wondered if you could produce them for PJ06? I am working to blend these separate maps into one with total perijove coverage. **update** If you have the time of course, I suspect this might not be the case! I think, the #124 sequence is missing. I've added this to the previous upload.
Did you find any other gaps? The video should be 1:36.04 with 25fps, a total of 2401 frames. -------------------- |
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May 31 2017, 11:12 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
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Jun 2 2017, 12:10 AM
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I started looking at the cylindrical maps you provided for PJ04 & wondered if you could produce them for PJ06?... I understand, what you are intending to do. I'll try to create an enhanced global seamless cylindrical PJ06 map with some constraints I need to consider. Give me a week or so. |
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Jun 2 2017, 02:07 AM
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Sean
I assume this is your work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQbTBt418o Great to see it in a manageable size and of course the subject DEMANDS the use of the Ligeti. Plus its getting an audience - nearly 80000 hits! This clip needs to be shown on every 6pm news service - it might help put things in some perspective. Congratulations! P |
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Jun 2 2017, 09:32 AM
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Much appreciated Gerald. I've also started looking into reprojection to fill in gaps using previous observations... the theory works, i just need to get good at it!
Thanks P, Yes I made that and I'm glad you appreciate the use of Ligeti. Its not everyones cup of tea. Someone left a note saying 'Jupiter is a planet NOT a horror film!' I have a prototype version slowed down by a factor of 10...so a 12 second closeup sequence lasts 2 minutes and it is very effective. -------------------- |
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Jun 2 2017, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
Sean, the video is amazing, and it looks like there is a wealth of stereo information to be extracted. I'm almost certain that we see significant changes in parallax at many times and places throughout it.
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Jun 2 2017, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
Seán, Charley Locke just notified, that she completed her nice summary about your video.
I wondered, whether she would write a technical article with all the material I provided her, but I think this would have taken several days, at least. Regarding parallax: I tried to identify parallax effects since the first Jupiter flyby, but wasn't able to find some, thus far, in an unambiguous way. There is some tiny displacement for high velocity jets which could be confused with parallax. But the projection isn't quite perfect, so you get some artifacts from processing inaccuracies, too. Scroll down a bit this PJ1 article of John Rogers to see some animations. We see such tiny displacements in all perijoves with close-up images. |
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Jun 2 2017, 03:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
@JRehling Thanks, I would be careful about reading too much into the videos I make since I am adding a plethora of tween frames which are not reliable sources to scrutinise.
@Gerald...yes I was notified also. I provided a LOT of information which was not used so I wonder if the initial brief was changed. Is this typical of the media? I suspect so. I also had to insist that they remove a version of the video which was appropriated by someone else, re-compressed and a different soundtrack added. This version of the video did not attribute credit to either of us. The same thing happened when a picture editor applied some awful processing to my images and credited ME with the work! Not only destroying the work ( whatever its merits ) but conflating his image with mine and trashing my reputation into the bargain. He did it twice. I have to say that wilful appropriation compounded by lackadaisical editorial is extremely difficult and time consuming to counter. Jupiter deserves better!! -------------------- |
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Jun 2 2017, 04:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
I've terabytes of processed JunoCam images, but I've released only a few gigabytes. That's similar with the media. They pick out what they consider most interesting for their audience. Might be, WIRED will publish a more detailed article at some time, later.
As soon as something is released publicly, I occasionally check how it is used elsewhere, but I usually don't try to intervene. I just try to learn how to stay clear enough not to cause unintended misinterpretations myself. What counts, is that your videos are going to get broad attention. This helps public outreach, and it provides a more complete perception of Jupiter, the Juno mission, and the high quality of JunoCam in the public. I'm confident, that at the end, the web community will pay most attention to the best video products. |
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Jun 3 2017, 01:06 AM
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I've terabytes of processed JunoCam images, but I've released only a few gigabytes. That's similar with the media. They pick out what they consider most interesting for their audience. Might be, WIRED will publish a more detailed article at some time, later. As soon as something is released publicly, I occasionally check how it is used elsewhere, but I usually don't try to intervene. I just try to learn how to stay clear enough not to cause unintended misinterpretations myself. What counts, is that your videos are going to get broad attention. This helps public outreach, and it provides a more complete perception of Jupiter, the Juno mission, and the high quality of JunoCam in the public. I'm confident, that at the end, the web community will pay most attention to the best video products. Thanks for your awesome work Gerald! Here is my take on your Jupiter flyby animation video, featuring Holst's Jupiter suite, Carl Sagan voiceover and real Jovian sounds: https://vimeo.com/220084865 |
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