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chuckclark
post Oct 27 2008, 12:57 PM
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Here is a constant-scale natural boundary map of Ida that folds to a decent replica of the asteroid. Map edges are Ida's major ridges.[attachment=16299:Ida_MaxRidge_post.jpg]
[EDIT] Here it is again with the photomosaic properly credited; apologies to M. Nyrtsov for my oversight.
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post Nov 7 2008, 07:26 AM
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It was difficult for me even to build a paper Earth globe, without something to glue the paper on... I can't imagine how I could build such an irregular shape..... huh.gif

But I guess a 3d model should exist somewhere, if a card model has been prepared: where could I find it? Maybe I could build a model by means of multiple overlapped "slices" of cardstock or wood... huh.gif
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post Nov 7 2008, 02:16 PM
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jumpjack:
Here is a link Phobos Arts and Crafts that gives tips and pics on assembling these paper models -- Note the link deals with Phobos not Ida, but the assembly tips ought to be transferable. Emily's article also includes (I'll have to confirm this) another link to a post I made here at USF with further tips and alternate method (clear tape) of holding it together -- Emily prefers glue.

Oh, Tayfun, now I see your post about the internal slice-packing -- What a superb idea! If you check out the latest posts (and maps) at the "Map of Eros" thread, you'll see my frustration at getting the Eros folded-up map to hold its shape in the Shoemaker region; an internal mass , even if was a fairly loose fit, would, I think, do the trick.

The problem will be to coordinate the size properly, so that the photomosaic paper will wrap the insides neatly. The "Tayfun slices" (aim for about 3/8 inch thick; keep it extremely coarse -- not many slices will be needed; as well as a bit undersized) will make on object of a certain scale, and if that matches the scale bar included on the csnb (constant-scale natural boundary) map, things ought to work. Or be close enough that a little fiddling will be all that's needed.

When I print the Ida and Eros maps on ledger paper, the assembled (folded-up) objects are about 5.5 inches in longest dimension. They aren't in front of me at the moment, but when I get back to my asteroid lab I'll put the micrometers on them and report.
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post Nov 10 2008, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (chuckclark @ Nov 7 2008, 04:16 PM) *
jumpjack:
Here is a link Phobos Arts and Crafts

Well, the final result is not at all as I thought it was. I think I won't try it, unless Tayfun post his "sliced" models...
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- chuckclark   foldable map of Ida   Oct 27 2008, 12:57 PM
- - jumpjack   QUOTE (chuckclark @ Oct 27 2008, 02:57 PM...   Nov 6 2008, 08:24 AM
|- - dilo   I tried with the aid of my son but result was very...   Nov 6 2008, 03:07 PM
|- - chuckclark   I've put it together twice -- I'll post a ...   Nov 6 2008, 05:31 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Does my old friend Maxim Nyrtsov read this? Hi Ma...   Nov 6 2008, 06:14 PM
- - jumpjack   It was difficult for me even to build a paper Eart...   Nov 7 2008, 07:26 AM
|- - chuckclark   jumpjack: Here is a link Phobos Arts and Crafts th...   Nov 7 2008, 02:16 PM
|- - jumpjack   QUOTE (chuckclark @ Nov 7 2008, 04:16 PM)...   Nov 10 2008, 08:12 AM
- - Tayfun Öner   I built the physical models that Chuck is using to...   Nov 7 2008, 11:41 AM
|- - jumpjack   QUOTE (Tayfun Öner @ Nov 7 2008, 01:41 PM...   Nov 7 2008, 12:52 PM
- - djellison   What format are those models available in?   Nov 7 2008, 12:13 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   I can convert the models to most popular formats. ...   Nov 7 2008, 01:06 PM
|- - jumpjack   QUOTE (Tayfun Öner @ Nov 7 2008, 03:06 PM...   Nov 7 2008, 01:20 PM
- - chuckclark   OK, I corralled a photographer, (S. Adkins) to tak...   Nov 10 2008, 01:33 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Chuck the comparison photo is really impressive. ...   Nov 10 2008, 03:13 PM
|- - jumpjack   QUOTE (Tayfun Öner @ Nov 10 2008, 05:13 P...   Nov 10 2008, 06:52 PM
|- - chuckclark   Thanks, Tayfun. Like I say, the view from the oth...   Nov 10 2008, 08:42 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   By hand I presume you mean manually, no I will mak...   Nov 10 2008, 08:43 PM
|- - chuckclark   this may surprise you but I don't have much fa...   Nov 10 2008, 08:46 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Here is a rendering from a similar angle.   Nov 11 2008, 05:20 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Here are the Phobos slices. As I don't know ho...   Nov 11 2008, 06:00 PM
|- - chuckclark   Well, so far so good. I downloaded and unzipped t...   Nov 11 2008, 08:14 PM
|- - chuckclark   QUOTE (Tayfun Öner @ Nov 11 2008, 01:00 P...   Nov 15 2008, 06:54 PM
- - chuckclark   Okay, so borrowing a little from both systems, her...   Nov 15 2008, 07:17 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Chuck, that is brilliant. Here are your cuts both ...   Nov 15 2008, 07:58 PM
- - djellison   GENIUS   Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM
|- - chuckclark   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 15 2008, 04:26 PM)...   Nov 17 2008, 02:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Very interesting and entertaining stuff. I think ...   Nov 17 2008, 04:10 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Here are ribs for Eros.   Nov 21 2008, 06:59 PM
|- - chuckclark   QUOTE (Tayfun Öner @ Nov 21 2008, 01:59 P...   Nov 21 2008, 10:02 PM
- - Tayfun Öner   Eros ribs updated, please note that north is up fo...   Nov 22 2008, 10:56 AM
- - jumpjack   I just discovered that Google Sketchup can easily ...   Dec 29 2008, 10:00 PM
- - paxdan   Here is a link to SliceModeler http://blog.makezin...   Jan 6 2009, 06:08 PM
- - jumpjack   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jan 6 2009, 07:08 PM) Her...   Jan 6 2009, 06:58 PM


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