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erpol
post Dec 7 2014, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Aug 7 2012, 06:56 PM) *
mcaplinger: Thanks. It might be better to say I probably wouldn't write it exactly that way again, knowing what I know now.

erpol: Thanks. Yes, MMB was written in Java.


Dear mhoward. I' m using Midnight Planets now, but I still prefer the old MMB. The main problem in MP is I can't save the pictures on my HardDisk.
I can see the pictures in one tap, see the anagliphs, the panorama, but I can't save them.

More...
Today I had a bad news: Exploratorium doesn't answer. After a while I found out: the URL has changed from www.exploratorium to qt.exploratorium.

I dowloaded all the MMB source and eventually find the place where the URL is defined. I could change www in qt, but.. How can I build the Application?
I found no INSTALL file or something alike. Do I have to feed it to XCode?
Some instructions, please. rolleyes.gif

Thanks.
Ermanno
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post Dec 7 2014, 06:58 PM
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Sorry, Ermanno, I can't help. MMB was compiled using Eclipse and the Rich Client Platform (RCP). The problem is that Eclipse is... well, I guess I'll be a tiny bit diplomatic here, and just say that after years of experience with it, I've gratefully left Eclipse and Java behind. Far behind. I don't even know how to compile MMB anymore, and I have no intention of revisiting it to find out. Which is why I've been saying for years that I'll keep updating the MMB metadata until something breaks, but when something breaks, that's the end. I haven't checked on Exploratorium yet, but if the old URL is no longer available, then it looks like that time has finally arrived.

Now if you're using Midnight Planets on Mac and want to access the files directly, you could download the 'Alpha' version from here and use the 'Configure Workspace' option under the application menu to configure a workspace directory. But there is no option to batch download all the files from a particular site, for example... that might be something for me to put in a future version. And all the images are stored in their original raw form, not processed as color (for Pancam) or anaglyphs... MP does all that dynamically at runtime, and there is currently no option to save processed images... also maybe something for a future version.
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post Dec 8 2014, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Dec 7 2014, 07:58 PM) *
Sorry, Ermanno, I can't help. MMB was compiled using Eclipse and the Rich Client Platform (RCP). The problem is that Eclipse is... well, I guess I'll be a tiny bit diplomatic here, and just say that after years of experience with it, I've gratefully left Eclipse and Java behind. Far behind. I don't even know how to compile MMB anymore, and I have no intention of revisiting it to find out. Which is why I've been saying for years that I'll keep updating the MMB metadata until something breaks, but when something breaks, that's the end. I haven't checked on Exploratorium yet, but if the old URL is no longer available, then it looks like that time has finally arrived.

What a pity... Luckily, the JPL repository is still the same. I downloaded the pictures without problems, from there.
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Now if you're using Midnight Planets on Mac and want to access the files directly, you could download the 'Alpha' version from here and use the 'Configure Workspace' option under the application menu to configure a workspace directory. But there is no option to batch download all the files from a particular site, for example... that might be something for me to put in a future version. And all the images are stored in their original raw form, not processed as color (for Pancam) or anaglyphs... MP does all that dynamically at runtime, and there is currently no option to save processed images... also maybe something for a future version.


I'll try to run the Alpha version (no danger to blow my Mac? rolleyes.gif ).

Thank you.

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post Dec 8 2014, 03:45 PM
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No, no danger to blow your Mac (that I'm aware of); however running any app off a website involves an extra degree of trust over getting it from the App Store. On the App Store, apps are (nominally) reviewed and are required to be 'sandboxed' for a certain degree of security. That said, right now the Alpha version is almost identical to the App Store version except for the Workspace feature.

Also it occurred to me today that I may not be able to keep the Alpha version around much longer, since I may end up using some functionality that's only available for App Store apps. I need to do some work to add the Workspace option to the App Store version of the app; that's more complicated than it sounds, because of the security sandboxing. One of many things on my to do list.
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post Mar 8 2015, 05:11 AM
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Noticed recently that a good number of the images at JPL are blank. I don't think they were missing a few years ago. For example, look at Sol 194 for the microscopic imager. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/opportunity_m194.html.
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(Not MMB related), but it's not just jpl, but also exploratorium: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...1M1.JPG?sol----
and pds. I have a vague memory of these blank images; probably they were simply overexposed.
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