After Victoria..., .. what next? |
After Victoria..., .. what next? |
Feb 15 2008, 09:46 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
God, what can Portugal offer to beat that? Man...putting some fuel to the fire?... This is Stu's ground but I took the challenge. This is it for now...I remembered some verses from a poem I truly like and follow from there... I dare you Stu, to play the next card... To trap the journeyer? To silence the song of the quest? To curtail the pilgrim’s step? To cease? Cease the one for whom life is only death delayed. For whom the horizon is to contemplate, not to reach. Not to challenge, not to smell, not to touch. But you, The one created by Man, Bearing His mortality but also His will, You have defeated the distance, You, that are Us on another planet, You, even tired of the roaming, You, even missing Home, And the Ones who gave you life, You dare not to cease but to follow, Freely, Beyond yourself, Beyond us. Until the end a Rover, From the shiny Alfa to a dusty Omega, Chasing, for Us, the Impossible, Beating, for Us, the improbable, Dreaming, as Us, with the far mountains. Ithaca awaits, not your arrival, neither your triomph, but your will to reach it. Your will to move Onward. Move, Onward and do not cease, Faitful, until the end, To your pilgrim nature, To the Human sparkle in you, Your wheels, our feet, over the ground never walked, Your eyes our eyes, beholding the never seen, Faitful. Until one final step, until one final look. EDITED: I love the smell of Ultreya in the morning... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Feb 15 2008, 10:41 AM
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#182
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Member Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 17-July 07 From: Canberra Australia Member No.: 2865 |
Poet Laureats all, but perhaps a touch of realism is in order? We have one crippled robot at Home Plate (sorry but she is already in hunker down mode mode in early autumn- not a sign of a healthy rover) and an ageing robot in Victoria. What these robots have achieved is amazing, but the laws of physics dictate that at some stage, and probaly not too far distant, one or both of these vehicles will expire. Forget fantasies about Icatha. What is the best return on say a three month (original mission_ 90 day venture). Heading fdown towrds the Victoria dunes seems a damn sight better than playing on the ejecta blanket!!!
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Feb 15 2008, 11:09 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Forget fantasies about Icatha. I won't forget it until there's a possiblity. I want to see this...: ...Closer... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Feb 15 2008, 11:50 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
The was an old rover called Oppy
Who's Rat mechanism was choppy She was stuck in some dunes Just running of fumes For long term drive planning, that's sloppy. |
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Feb 15 2008, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
I ask myself, if I were there in person would I really turn my back on this crater before exploring every bay and every cape, searching every available square metre of cliff face for something new and different (however small) that might later turn out to be an important clue? I don't think so. Just imagine the scene in 50 years' time:
"Good grief!! How did they miss that with the MER?" "Guess they didn't look round this side." All the hints and clues say I'm on the wrong track, I know. They'll probably retrace old ground as various team members with unfinished business at earlier locations stake their claims. |
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Feb 15 2008, 03:00 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
The was an old rover called Oppy Who's Rat mechanism was choppy She was stuck in some dunes Just running of fumes For long term drive planning, that's sloppy. Genius. Cleverer than a fox on Mastermind, whose specialist subject is "Killing Chickens". -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2008, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Forget fantasies about Icatha. This is why we wanna go to Ithaca -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2008, 09:20 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Just feeding the myth...
Did you guys knew that one of the possible translations for Odysseus or Ulysses, the one who took ten years to reach Ithaca...the "resourcefulness" Odysseus...is "leg wound"?... Oppy... Oddy... Things come always into place... EDITED: There will be, not so soon, a mission like this one...with such a passion, such an intense debate, where humans battling with poetry for a machine's destiny... Not so soon...the MER mission is an anthem to Mankind itself, to the nature of each one of us but, more than that, to our nature as a whole species. Beyond...beyond ourselves... I truly believe that. -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Feb 15 2008, 11:24 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
This is something that both Jim Bell and I think, which typifies just how much a part of our lives those two machines have become.
I can't remember what my life was like before them. Doug |
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Feb 16 2008, 12:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 754 Joined: 9-February 07 Member No.: 1700 |
Lovely words, ustrax. Whenever we do something great like this, I feel proud to be a human.
"For All Mankind" |
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Feb 16 2008, 12:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Back in january 2004, when Spirit was not responding anymore and Oppy was a week to landing, I realised that we could loose both of them and the mission would be over before it ever realy started. I felt so bad during a full week.
Our life would have been so different... -------------------- |
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Feb 16 2008, 01:17 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Before I say anything else, congrats to our esteemed poets...I'm not even gonna try in the face of such emotion & inspiration, thank you!
Yeah, who'd've thought that we'd be cheering the MERs on in 2008? This epic journey may well mark the first genuine 'old-school' human exploration of another world, even though our presence has been virtual. We've seen what's beyond the next horizon, again and again; what a remarkable experience, and it ain't over yet! The bar's been set damn high for the future, to be sure. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Feb 16 2008, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Just curious, is there anyone here that would have Opportunity head for parts unknown
without first checking out these intriguing features on the East rim of Victoria? Show yourself. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/mult...a/pia09191.html |
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Feb 16 2008, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Just curious, is there anyone here that would have Opportunity head for parts unknown T'would be interesting to get a close-up view of x-sections of the anatolia-features.without first checking out these intriguing features on the East rim of Victoria? ---Bill -------------------- |
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Feb 16 2008, 06:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4252 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Just curious, is there anyone here that would have Opportunity head for parts unknown without first checking out these intriguing features on the East rim of Victoria? I'd love to check them out, and I was surprized we didn't take a closer look when we were out east. But it might be a question of accessiblity. The bays may be too steep to enter over there, and it's tough to examine a cliff from the top of the cliff. Indeed, it looks like we actually were above one of those "linear features" on sols 1153 to 1157 atop Tierra del Fuego. Still I think there are a couple of spots where we could get a decent view of the features. |
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