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Launch vehicle, Atlas V
Redstone
post Jun 3 2006, 01:19 PM
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NASA has decided to use the Atlas V, with 4 strap-on solid rocket boosters to launch MSL. This is the same rocket that launched MRO (no solids) and New Horizons (5 solids).

Cost: $194.7 million, less than half the price of the Titan IV which would have been needed a few years ago.

Rocky Mountain News article

NASA press release
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post Jun 4 2006, 01:42 AM
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The Discovery missions are all supposed to use Delta 2 (or smaller boosters) for precisely that reason -- although even that has been complicated by the fact that Delta 2's use as a commercial launcher is about to cease, which makes it a lot less cost-effective for Boeing to keep the assembly line going, which in turn has caused a big jump in the price that Boeing demands from NASA for Delta 2s. *sigh*

Couple this with the fact that the important Solar System exploration goals that can be achieved at this point with little spacecraft are decreasing in number, and the case becomes very strong for considerably slowing down the pace at which Discovery missions are launched -- maybe to about one every 4 years, as with the New Frontiers missions -- at the same time that we raise their cost cap. (By contrast, it still looks as though there are a lot of worthwhile scientific goals, of greatly varied type, that can be met with small Explorers.)
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- Redstone   Launch vehicle   Jun 3 2006, 01:19 PM
- - dvandorn   This just points out another truth behind the fund...   Jun 3 2006, 03:44 PM
- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (Redstone @ Jun 3 2006, 09:19 AM) N...   Jun 3 2006, 06:23 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The Discovery missions are all supposed to use Del...   Jun 4 2006, 01:42 AM
- - RNeuhaus   I would like to learn about the what are limit of ...   Jun 4 2006, 02:13 AM
- - Jim from NSF.com   The "other items" of the launch service ...   Jun 4 2006, 02:55 AM
- - PhilCo126   A reminder to point out that the Atlas V is not th...   Jun 4 2006, 09:34 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jun 4 2006, 10:34 AM) ...   Jun 4 2006, 11:28 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jun 4 2006, 10:34 AM) ...   Jun 4 2006, 05:37 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jun 4 2006, 04:34 AM) ...   Jun 4 2006, 08:48 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jun 4 2006, 09:48 PM) p...   Jun 4 2006, 09:15 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 4 2006, 02:15 PM) Th...   Jun 4 2006, 11:46 PM
- - DonPMitchell   Let's look at some numbers. Here are some fig...   Jun 4 2006, 06:20 PM
|- - ugordan   You're forgetting the engine RD-180 was derive...   Jun 4 2006, 06:46 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 4 2006, 11:46 AM) Yo...   Jun 4 2006, 07:04 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 4 2006, 08:04 P...   Jun 4 2006, 07:12 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 4 2006, 12:12 PM) D...   Jun 4 2006, 07:23 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 4 2006, 03:12 PM) D...   Jun 5 2006, 07:20 AM
- - djellison   In a brief 'still on holiday' pop-head-aro...   Jun 5 2006, 07:41 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 5 2006, 08:41 AM) ...   Jun 5 2006, 08:28 AM
- - DonPMitchell   Thrusts I gave are vacuum thrusts, just for compar...   Jun 5 2006, 08:48 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 5 2006, 09:48 A...   Jun 5 2006, 09:00 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 5 2006, 02:00 AM) A ...   Jun 5 2006, 10:27 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 5 2006, 11:27 A...   Jun 5 2006, 10:47 AM
||- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 5 2006, 03:47 AM) Th...   Jun 5 2006, 11:36 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   Don: I think Mark Wade is normally excellent, but...   Jun 5 2006, 01:03 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 5 2006, 02:03 PM) I...   Jun 5 2006, 01:32 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 5 2006, 02:32 PM) Th...   Jun 5 2006, 08:45 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 5 2006, 09:45 PM) S...   Jun 5 2006, 08:53 PM
|||- - Bob Shaw   Gordan: Yup, I see what you mean - I still though...   Jun 5 2006, 09:07 PM
|||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 5 2006, 10:07 PM) t...   Jun 5 2006, 09:19 PM
|||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 5 2006, 10:19 PM) Wh...   Jun 5 2006, 09:34 PM
|||- - Bob Shaw   Looks like I disremembered the landing sequence to...   Jun 5 2006, 10:16 PM
|||- - ugordan   Bob: In the leftmost image you sent, the drawing ...   Jun 6 2006, 01:28 PM
|||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 6 2006, 02:28 PM) Bo...   Jun 6 2006, 02:37 PM
|||- - ugordan   Yep, look at the other cartoon you sent showing th...   Jun 6 2006, 02:44 PM
|||- - Bob Shaw   Gordan: So, the question remains: did it actually...   Jun 6 2006, 02:53 PM
||- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 5 2006, 01:45 PM) G...   Jun 5 2006, 10:57 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 5 2006, 12:27 P...   Jun 5 2006, 11:03 AM
- - PhilCo126   Don was right on the unit ( 10 & 9.8 kilogram-...   Jun 5 2006, 04:08 PM
- - Spirit   Hi everybody, I am new to the forum. Here is my f...   Jun 6 2006, 06:15 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (Spirit @ Jun 6 2006, 02:15 PM) Hi ...   Jun 6 2006, 06:31 PM
- - DonPMitchell   Here is a rather fanciful site dedicated to the En...   Jun 6 2006, 07:24 PM


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