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tedstryk
post Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
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In Astronomy's February issue, they report that Russia has approved funding for the Phobos-Grunt mission. Design work has gone on since 1997, and the new design is scaled down to fly an a Soyuz rocket instead of the larger Proton. The main purpose is similar to Phobos-2, with the addition of a sample return. Also being discussed is the possibility of it carrying a few "meteorological stations" fof Mars itself. Generally, I have written this mission off as "never going to happen," but with the new Russian alliance with ESA, I wonder if they might be able to actually fly this thing. Also, with Putin's increasingly Soviet-style leadership, and with the likelyhood of lunar missions from China and India, Russian pride might drive this mission. If so, I have a concern. This mission sounds really, really ambitious. And the Russians have never even sent a fully successful Mars orbiter, and that is when they launched them in pairs or triplets. Still, if the mission flies, even if it doesn't bring back Phobos soil it might obtain some interesting results. Here is ESA's Phobos-Grunt page:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...IJFW4QWD_0.html

Also, ESA has another page on potential Russian programs, although this seem to be nothing but pipe dreams at the moment. Would be a cool mission though.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...0LFW4QWD_0.html

And also a page on the only partially realized current Russian project, its program to put instruments on other's spacecraft, such as HEND on Odyssey.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...HMFW4QWD_0.html


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- tedstryk   Phobos-Grunt   Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
- - marsophile   http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/11/liv...forts...   Nov 24 2011, 03:04 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   From the Nasaspaceflight article: QUOTE as far as ...   Nov 24 2011, 04:09 AM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 23 2011, 08:09 P...   Nov 24 2011, 04:31 AM
- - jekbradbury   This paper (page 3, figure 3) has a "porkchop...   Nov 24 2011, 05:21 AM
- - Leither   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1587...   Nov 24 2011, 01:00 PM
- - GEmin1   Russian tracking station in Baikonur (Kazakhstan) ...   Nov 24 2011, 03:03 PM
|- - dilo   Look at the recent orbit data: http://www.satflare...   Nov 24 2011, 05:34 PM
- - Leither   http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Operations/SEMQTNZW5VG...   Nov 25 2011, 03:48 PM
- - Greg Hullender   @dilo I'd be more inclined to blame it on atmo...   Nov 25 2011, 04:28 PM
- - scalbers   I've read bits and pieces online that speculat...   Nov 27 2011, 01:30 AM
- - ddeerrff   Could a fuel leak raise perigee?   Nov 27 2011, 01:48 AM
- - nprev   That would have had to be a very well-timed fuel l...   Nov 27 2011, 02:05 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 27 2011, 03:05 AM) If ...   Nov 27 2011, 02:28 AM
- - nprev   Oh, sure, and didn't mean to imply that it mig...   Nov 27 2011, 02:33 AM
- - stevesliva   The spacecraft is likely using thruster firings to...   Nov 27 2011, 04:54 AM
|- - tedstryk   Just noticed on Twitter that it has apparently beg...   Nov 27 2011, 02:52 PM
- - Paolo   according to the French newspaper "Le Monde...   Nov 28 2011, 09:43 AM
- - marsophile   http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grun...unch....   Nov 28 2011, 08:34 PM
|- - dilo   Source isn't very reliable, but is worth to re...   Nov 29 2011, 09:48 PM
- - marsophile   http://www.space.com/13761-russian-spacecr...t-esa...   Nov 29 2011, 09:39 PM
- - Daba   Telescopic imaging of FG! http://freeimagehos...   Nov 29 2011, 10:19 PM
- - OKB001   That's great, thanks for the link!   Nov 30 2011, 06:20 AM
- - ilbasso   BBC News is reporting that ESA has abandoned furth...   Dec 2 2011, 05:04 PM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Dec 2 2011, 09:04 AM) .....   Dec 2 2011, 08:49 PM
|- - Daba   QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 2 2011, 09:49 PM)...   Dec 3 2011, 09:55 AM
- - ddeerrff   How's the orbit holding up? Last I heard it w...   Dec 2 2011, 08:59 PM
|- - dilo   ddeerrff, based on this site, re-entry is now fore...   Dec 2 2011, 10:22 PM
- - Marz   "Following a request from Russian mission aut...   Dec 8 2011, 08:21 PM
- - ilbasso   The Washington Post is reporting that Russia has g...   Dec 12 2011, 04:25 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (ilbasso @ Dec 11 2011, 08:25 PM) c...   Dec 12 2011, 05:29 AM
|- - SFJCody   I think the re-soldering info was sourced from Ana...   Dec 12 2011, 06:01 AM
||- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Dec 11 2011, 10:01 PM) I...   Dec 13 2011, 07:48 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 11 2011, 09:29 P...   Dec 13 2011, 02:56 AM
- - PDP8E   Here is a recent article (dated today 12/12/2011) ...   Dec 14 2011, 03:51 AM
- - Daba   According to Simone Corbellini, who calculated thi...   Dec 17 2011, 06:49 PM
- - Daba   Another stunning video from Thierry Legault! ...   Jan 5 2012, 07:58 AM
|- - dilo   I see some similarities...   Jan 5 2012, 09:24 AM
|- - tedstryk   Seriously, Dilo? The chap in the picture on the l...   Jan 5 2012, 02:25 PM
|- - dilo   Well, glasses are clearly reflecting the Earth glo...   Jan 5 2012, 02:42 PM
- - hendric   Looks like it is still maintaining orientation. R...   Jan 5 2012, 05:26 PM
|- - dilo   Just discovered that Roscosmos gives daily orbital...   Jan 5 2012, 10:04 PM
|- - Jaheira   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 5 2012, 05:26 PM) Lo...   Jan 6 2012, 06:12 PM
|- - hendric   QUOTE (Jaheira @ Jan 6 2012, 12:12 PM) I ...   Jan 6 2012, 09:34 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I can't think of an easy way to estimate the r...   Jan 6 2012, 09:21 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 6 2012, 09:21...   Jan 9 2012, 09:06 AM
- - brellis   Regarding dilo's charts from post #641: what h...   Jan 9 2012, 01:51 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (brellis @ Jan 9 2012, 02:51 PM) Re...   Jan 9 2012, 03:52 PM
- - Drkskywxlt   Overambitious and underfunding killed this mission...   Jan 9 2012, 06:15 PM
- - Explorer1   From Spaceweather.com: QUOTE Russia's malfunc...   Jan 11 2012, 08:57 AM
|- - dilo   Update based on Roscosmos orbit data: Herebelow I...   Jan 12 2012, 08:53 AM
|- - dilo   From "Herald Sun" (do not know how much ...   Jan 15 2012, 05:30 PM
- - Greg Hullender   The feed James Canvin pointed us to is saying Phob...   Jan 15 2012, 05:44 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Associated Press is reporting that Phobos-Grunt la...   Jan 15 2012, 06:17 PM
|- - dilo   Based on russian sources, the spacecraft re-entere...   Jan 15 2012, 08:49 PM
|- - Jaheira   Here's Spaceflight Now's spin on events......   Jan 16 2012, 07:53 AM
- - monitorlizard   What looks to my untrained eyes as the most likely...   Jan 18 2012, 05:04 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Jan 18 2012, 09:04...   Jan 18 2012, 05:49 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   Direct link, for when the article moves off the fr...   Jan 19 2012, 04:44 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   Off to the side in that article are three images o...   Jan 19 2012, 03:23 PM
- - Drkskywxlt   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46202087/ns/te..._scie...   Jan 31 2012, 01:35 PM
- - stevesliva   I actually didn't read it as blaming anyone ou...   Feb 1 2012, 01:33 AM
- - elakdawalla   All: it sucks that Phobos-Grunt is gone, and that ...   Feb 1 2012, 02:58 AM
- - marsophile   I would like to add just one more insighful articl...   Feb 1 2012, 04:23 PM
- - Bill Harris   Perhaps it's best that the P-G did fail. It w...   Feb 2 2012, 11:26 AM
- - Astro0   1. Please re-read Emily's comment above. 2. So...   Feb 2 2012, 11:46 AM
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