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-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jan 5 2007, 06:05 PM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
QUOTE The online edition of Nature will publish, on 8 January 2007, a major scientific achievement in astronomy, in which European astronomers have participated, using a space telescope with ESA participation. wow, all the details (!) ...so it's Hubble I assume, or are there more space telescopes 'with ESA participation'? Can't think of one right now....unless they have results from Corot already 
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Jan 5 2007, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE ... or are there more space telescopes 'with ESA participation'? SOHO? -------------------- - blue_scape / Nico -
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Jan 5 2007, 09:26 PM
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Hmmm... This does have me curious. Astronomy itself is rarely my thing, but who knows? It should be interesting...
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Jan 5 2007, 09:39 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 13-April 05 Member No.: 232 |
I wonder if it's a reference to the story reported here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6231623.stm |
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Jan 5 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (Astrophil @ Jan 5 2007, 10:39 PM)  I wonder if it's a reference to the story reported here: That's what I put my money on. -------------------- |
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Jan 5 2007, 09:50 PM
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 The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5546 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Wow, have we actually found something top secret you don't know about in advance altready tuv?!?!?!
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Jan 5 2007, 09:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 1062 |
LOL. I only really know HiRISE stuff, and occasionally bits from the other teams, for something I don't know about, just look at the MGS recent discovery.
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Jan 5 2007, 10:00 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5546 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
If it's the black hole story I'll be a bit disappointed. "Major" to me would be COROT discovering its first rocky world, or Hubble imaging Battlestar Galactica powering past Pluto...
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Jan 5 2007, 10:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 1062 |
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 5 2007, 03:00 PM) If it's the black hole story I'll be a bit disappointed. "Major" to me would be COROT discovering its first rocky world, or Hubble imaging Battlestar Galactica powering past Pluto... Please do keep in mind who is announcing the discovery... That's all I have to say on that subject. |
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Jan 5 2007, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3534 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
It's not like NASA PR doesn't know how to blow up an announcement out of proportion every now and then...
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Jan 5 2007, 10:26 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5546 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
QUOTE (tuvas @ Jan 5 2007, 10:23 PM) That's all I have to say on that subject. Yeah, apart from the crumbs you'll feed us one by one over the weekend until someone leaks it properly...
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Jan 7 2007, 06:46 PM
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Here it is (far less exciting than I had hoped): First 3D map of the Universe’s Dark Matter
http://television.esa.int/photos/EbS50295.pdf -------------------- I'm one of the most durable and fervent advocates of space exploration, but my take is that we could do it robotically at far less cost and far greater quantity and quality of results.
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Jan 7 2007, 07:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1513 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 7 2007, 10:46 AM) Here it is (far less exciting than I had hoped): First 3D map of the Universe’s Dark Matter http://television.esa.int/photos/EbS50295.pdf This seems (it is described, not shown!) to simply be a map of the universe's matter, assuming that it coincides with the dark matter, no? What about dark energy? If it is the prime mover and shaker, would it make sense to opine that a map of the universe is basicaly a map of dark energy, which is NOT co-located with the matter and dark matter? |
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Jan 7 2007, 07:44 PM
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Okaaaay.....
I probably should not be making editorial comments on the existence (or lack of same) of dark matter, but I cannot help but point out that dark matter is still just a hypothesis -- it has never been DIRECTLY detected (or indeed explained by standard physics). The anomalous motions that the dark matter hypothesis was invented to explain are also explainable by other hypotheses; in particular, by Milgrom's MOND hypothesis -- or possibly by full General Relativity, which is not normally used in these models, as it is very difficult computationally, but which in its first use in a galactic-scale model a few months ago, reproduced the effects of dark matter while utilising only the known baryonic matter. This announcement is (in my opinion) yet another example of assuming that dark matter exists, and then using that assumption as an unchallenged given while presenting 'proof' of dark matter's existence. Bill |
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