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Messenger Venus flyby images
Gladstoner
post May 29 2015, 09:14 PM
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Regarding the few images released after the 6/5/2007 Messenger flyby of Venus:

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA10124

The image caption states that 614 images were acquired. Are these available?

After all these missions, there is still a lack of (available) visible-light (non-UV) images of the 2nd rock.
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JohnVV
post Jun 3 2015, 09:24 PM
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the lack of details in the "Human visible" and the over all unidirectional flow in the UV

is the reason i use a 100% synthetic ( fractal based ) cloud map for Venus
the Pioneer Venus images in PDS
http://pds-atmospheres.nmsu.edu/Venus/venus.html
and on
http://www.astrosurf.com/nunes/explor/explor_pvenus.htm
are great ,-- but rather OLD
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JRehling
post Jun 4 2015, 05:02 PM
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I suspect that with the right filters, some details on Venus would be visible to a human observer appropriately located, but a human looking at Venus from nearby with no filters at all would be on the verge of pain from the intense brightness. I suppose you could simulate it by using a mirror to reflect sunlight onto something white on a bright, sunny day so that there was a spot with double sunlight. It's bad enough looking at snow on a sunny day, and Venus sunlit clouds are about twice as bright.

But, there is contrast at the violet end of the spectrum, just barely in the visible range, and so a person with the right "sunglasses" could see detail. But without those, the SNR would be problematic due to the greater luminance in the rest of the spectrum. And, as I mentioned above, it would be somewhere between blinding and painful.

It might be interesting to consider what polarizing filters could achieve. When I'm wearing sunglasses, I often see sun dogs in the sky and notice that without the shades, the sun dog is essentially invisible.
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post Jun 4 2015, 05:31 PM
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Lowell was too creative on his drawings and interpretations.
On that illustration he was seeing the Y shaped pattern, and that is real.
But he interpreted the shadings as linear features, and put those into the sketch.
As always, one should never over interpret low SN data :-)


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- Gladstoner   Messenger Venus flyby images   May 29 2015, 09:14 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ May 29 2015, 09:14 PM...   May 29 2015, 09:29 PM
- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 29 2015, 04:29...   May 30 2015, 12:54 AM
|- - dvandorn   The best one I've seen is this Mariner 10 atte...   May 30 2015, 01:07 AM
- - elakdawalla   That version did not correct for the nonsquareness...   Jun 1 2015, 04:28 PM
|- - 4throck   That orange version is some derivative of my origi...   Jun 1 2015, 10:12 PM
|- - Gladstoner   Thanks everyone for the images and links. But this...   Jun 2 2015, 02:48 AM
|- - JRehling   Here's my best image of Venus, taken with a Ce...   Jun 2 2015, 06:31 PM
|- - 4throck   Nice image! Again I agree. You can get good e...   Jun 2 2015, 06:46 PM
- - ZLD   Interesting. I hadn't seen that Messenger imag...   Jun 2 2015, 05:16 AM
|- - 4throck   You can't see the surface in visual wavelength...   Jun 2 2015, 08:36 AM
- - Phil Stooke   As 4throck says, that image is not showing the sur...   Jun 2 2015, 05:07 PM
- - tasp   Very much appreciate the Messenger color Venus pic...   Jun 2 2015, 05:37 PM
- - ZLD   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 2 2015, 11:07 AM...   Jun 2 2015, 08:43 PM
|- - JRehling   Here, an amateur used IR to image Venus's nigh...   Jun 2 2015, 10:13 PM
|- - 4throck   QUOTE (ZLD @ Jun 2 2015, 09:43 PM) Not in...   Jun 3 2015, 09:56 AM
- - Phil Stooke   If you like those linear features, you'll love...   Jun 3 2015, 02:14 PM
- - JohnVV   the lack of details in the "Human visible...   Jun 3 2015, 09:24 PM
|- - JRehling   I suspect that with the right filters, some detail...   Jun 4 2015, 05:02 PM
|- - 4throck   Lowell was too creative on his drawings and interp...   Jun 4 2015, 05:31 PM
- - ZLD   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 3 2015, 09:14 AM...   Jun 3 2015, 10:17 PM


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