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Nov 27 2018, 02:21 AM
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Yes but in this case the expected comm pass was with mars odyssey which would transmit from what it got from insight. Anyway nothing to do but wait and see Yes, but I remember it showing up on the antenna as SPP (Solar Probe Plus) but no downlink animation, even though they obviously had received data, because they confirmed critical spacecraft deployment sequences. |
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Nov 27 2018, 02:23 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
<shrug>...same thing in this case. MODY is shown on DSS 25 & 26, MAVEN & MRO also on 26. We can't tell.
Patience, grasshoppers, patience. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 27 2018, 02:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 10-September 08 Member No.: 4338 |
https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/11/26/insig...-status-center/
Spaceflightnow does live updates. QUOTE 11/26/2018 18:14
Stephen Clark Stephen Clark We're standing by for an update on the deployment of InSight's solar panels as JPL engineers analyze data relayed from the lander to Earth via the Mars Odyssey orbiter. |
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Nov 27 2018, 02:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1417 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
-------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Nov 27 2018, 02:47 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I understand the caution about DSN Now in terms of the variable "positive predictive value" of it appearing to be communicating with a certain spacecraft. What is the "negative predictive value" of it showing a prolonged (i.e. in this case >25 min) NO communication through any antenna with a given spacecraft at a time that comm. was expected? False negatives are also a thing. Very often. All down to the antennas and how they report their status back to the subscription services from which DSN Now generates it's status XML file that drives the web-page. Because that Odyssey pass happened and the data is VERY much on the ground... https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/insight/multimedi...0&end_sol=0 |
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Nov 27 2018, 02:53 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 4-July 08 Member No.: 4251 |
New image. Because that Odyssey pass happened and the data is VERY much on the ground... https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/insight/multimedi...0&end_sol=0 That's surprisingly rocky. That's a big effing boulder in the distance. The only concern here is that the mole will hit a big horizontal rock on the way down ... Based on this (early) animation of the instrument deck and deployment, this view is looking down the arm towards the SOUTH, towards the direction that the instruments will be deployed. |
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Nov 27 2018, 02:54 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10149 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The raw image page:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/multimedia/ra...mission=insight shows two versions of the first image taken a few minutes apart. The dust has moved around a bit on it, which will help clean up the image while we wait for that cover to drop off. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 27 2018, 02:55 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Not exactly a flat parking lot, I see some good sized rocks.
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Nov 27 2018, 02:58 AM
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Nov 27 2018, 03:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: 18-June 04 Member No.: 84 |
Well, the text accompanying that image says "looking forward to exploring my new home"
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Nov 27 2018, 03:02 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Thanks for the DSN Now clarification, Doug.
Yeah, that's...pretty rough in the distance. Could've gotten ugly. Looks like they found a nice sandy patch, though, if the rest of the terrain is like the near part. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 27 2018, 03:02 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Anyone notice the indentations on the robotic arm cover plate, wonder if they were there before flight ?
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Nov 27 2018, 03:10 AM
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PHIL-O-VISION of the horizon; 10X vertical
~2 degrees tilt to the right - straighten out This place is flat... EDIT: better PHIL-O-VISION (rotate left 2 degrees before vertical exaggeration) -------------------- CLA CLL
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Nov 27 2018, 03:10 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10149 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
NASA JPL Verified account @NASAJPL 2m2 minutes ago Data from Odyssey indicate @NASAInSight’s solar arrays are open and batteries are charging. The transmission also included this view from the instrument deployment camera, showing the seismometer (left), grapple (center) and robotic arm (right) ----- -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 27 2018, 03:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 1-July 05 From: New York City Member No.: 424 |
Solar panels are deployed and batteries are charging.
https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1067253443339776000 Edit: jinxed by Phil This post has been edited by Tom Tamlyn: Nov 27 2018, 03:12 AM |
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