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post Jan 31 2008, 04:08 PM
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I had been unable to read the linked article (damn that small font and leaving my reading glasses at home) yesterday. I did not realize just how complex their proposed braking system is.

It still is not quite the MSL skycrane design, but it is a lot closer than I had imagined.

I'll concede the point, and call it a 'skycranette'.
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post Jan 31 2008, 07:21 PM
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Damn - I'm traveling at that time. I'l email you smile.gif

Thanks to Jorge for spending some weekend answering questions!!

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post Feb 1 2008, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 31 2008, 07:21 PM) *
Damn - I'm traveling at that time. I'l email you smile.gif

Thanks to Jorge for spending some weekend answering questions!!

Doug


Don't confound the hours...It's from 5PM to 6PM GMT, this time... smile.gif

Mail me your questions, I'll deliver them to the man, and yes, cool of him to accept the challenge, quite a pleasant man...


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post Feb 2 2008, 04:41 PM
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Guys...The stage is yours! smile.gif

EDITED: the man has entered with a great mood...not to waiste...
Jorge is asking for more questions..are u guys sleeping?! blink.gif

Those who haven't been there...you don't know what you have missed...

I'm converted...I'll be now an ExoMars chevalier... wink.gif


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post Feb 4 2008, 06:40 PM
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Silly, just silly the boycott...
ExoMars will be there, that's my new Ultreya...


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post Feb 4 2008, 07:33 PM
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I just didn't have the time to get questions in before hand, and was stuck away from the 'net at the time.

Nice to see some good questions asked - I want to see the PDR before I really stake my claim. The top level questions ( MER size vehicle with MSL size payload - no relay capacity - the year long wait on orbit ) didn't get covered - but some good stuff did. I still don't think it's the right mission for ESA to be doing at the moment - I think it could spend that much money better elsewhere.

I don't think anyone's boycotting, don't be offended, I just think people still don't think of ExoMars as a real mission yet - I find it hard to - and until the minsters meeting later in the year - it is just a proposal and a study. That it will progress to a real mission is by no means certain.

Massive thanks to Jorge for answering questions!

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post Feb 6 2008, 11:07 AM
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Offended?! blink.gif
Man, you got me wrong, I wasn't saying people were boycotting here, man...almost all the guest came from here... ;-)
I was making reference to the fact of Jorge Vago, asked us for, please, telling our governments that there is this one really cool mission at ESA that requires their support and attention at the 2008 ESA Ministerial Conference.
This sounds to me me like these governments haven't been giving a special attention to this mission...That's the boycott I was referring to, knowing from other sources that some instruments are having hard times trying to reach somewhere...

In the meanwhile...here's a spacEurope (EDITED...) pseudo-exclusive... tongue.gif
ExoMars rover has you have never, sort of, seen it! smile.gif


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post Feb 6 2008, 11:35 AM
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Carefull of using the word 'exclusive'
http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?mission=...on&subm3=GO

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Exclusive? Who used the word exclusive?... tongue.gif
I hadn't seen that yet...

EDITED: But mine as something exclusive regarding that one Doug...the drill was operating... wink.gif


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post Feb 10 2008, 04:31 AM
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Apparently ExoMars needs a new name.

TTT
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post Feb 10 2008, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Tom Tamlyn @ Feb 10 2008, 04:31 AM) *
Apparently ExoMars needs a new name.

TTT


Sounds like 'ExtraMars' might fit.

Good news in that article about increased British commitment to ESA. Not before time.
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QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 10 2008, 09:00 PM) *
Good news in that article about increased British commitment to ESA. Not before time.


Funding problems for UK ExoMars science

Here we go... (sigh)...


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post Jul 24 2008, 01:05 AM
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I hope noone did ask this question before. Since it would be probably too late for MSL, would it be possible for ExoMars to carry the DS 2 penetrators to Mars? With as little as possible extra work and money. Or would be 12 extra kilos too much?
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post Jul 24 2008, 07:52 AM
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12 kilos probably wouldn't be a cruise stage problem. HOWEVER - if Exomars enters orbit before deploying, then you've also got to de-orbit the DS2's, and err..

you've got to fund, design, test, build two DS2's....without any money.

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post Oct 3 2008, 05:39 PM
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I wonder if sampling problems from Phoenix are going to necessitate a redesign of how the Pasteur drill on Exo must deliver samples? Could the Mole also encounter problems depending on the soil characteristics; it seems like dunes in Meridiani can be fluffy and fluid, while the soil at the poles is clumpy and cohesive?
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