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Unmanned landing sites from LRO, Surveyors, Lunas, Lunakhods and impact craters from hardware impacts
dvandorn
post Sep 7 2009, 07:51 PM
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I figured it was time to begin a thread like this, especially since some of us may still be looking for the Surveyor III retro motor casing (assuming the bright dot to the north of the landing site isn't it).

We ought to be seeing some of the other Surveyors fairly soon, I would think. We know most of their locations pretty accurately. Again, I think there is a lot to be gained, both from scientific and engineering standpoints, from detailed imaging of the Surveyor VII landing site, just to mention one. And I really want to see how visible the Lunakhod tracks are as opposed to the MET and LRV tracks.

So... until we begin to see images of other unmanned hardware (or the craters caused by same), we could always discuss comparisons of Surveyor III surface imagery to the new LROC images of its landing site here. I'm especially taken by how you can resolve many of the blocks in Block Crater in the LROC image, which gives you a good feel for the explosive nature of the ejecta and roughly where in the ejecta plume a given block might have come from. Might be interesting/useful to apply this information to the samples taken at that location. smile.gif

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- dvandorn   Unmanned landing sites from LRO   Sep 7 2009, 07:51 PM
- - nprev   I would imagine that someone is preparing to publi...   Mar 2 2010, 07:01 AM
- - Lightning   Wow, just can't wait thoses images ! There...   Mar 2 2010, 10:23 PM
- - Phil Stooke   It's unfortunate that we don't yet have th...   Mar 8 2010, 04:42 PM
- - Hungry4info   How close together did they land?   Mar 8 2010, 04:59 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The usual sources always said a few hundred meters...   Mar 8 2010, 07:47 PM
- - Hungry4info   Ah, wow. Was that intentional?   Mar 8 2010, 07:59 PM
- - Paolo   Also Luna 18 and 20 are said to have landed within...   Mar 8 2010, 08:20 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Right, Paolo - in each case the first one failed a...   Mar 8 2010, 08:26 PM
- - PDP8E   Hey Phil, I have my destriper and blower-upper to...   Mar 9 2010, 05:57 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The LROC site has a place to ask questions. I ask...   Mar 11 2010, 01:02 AM
- - Phil Stooke   They said the drill was damaged - maybe struck a r...   Mar 11 2010, 02:43 PM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 11 2010, 10:43 P...   Mar 11 2010, 11:01 PM
|- - Geert   The longer I look at these new images, the more I ...   Mar 16 2010, 08:55 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Now they're teasing us (or just me) - today...   Mar 11 2010, 08:47 PM
- - peter59   Luna 23 and Luna 24 http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lro...   Mar 16 2010, 12:44 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Moving into this thread from the other one... here...   Mar 16 2010, 01:45 PM
|- - robspace54   Much clearer in the original higher - resolution s...   Mar 16 2010, 02:44 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 16 2010, 06:45 A...   Mar 16 2010, 04:07 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The original is rather low contrast. I'm not ...   Mar 16 2010, 04:53 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is an image from the commissioning orbit. La...   Mar 17 2010, 01:02 PM
- - nprev   <waiting anxiously for confirmation, hoping Phi...   Mar 17 2010, 08:21 PM
- - Phil Stooke   More of a one-fer, I'm afraid. Now I'm af...   Mar 17 2010, 09:23 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 18 2010, 05:23 A...   Mar 18 2010, 01:26 AM
- - Maquis   Okay, I've taken a look at NASA site: http://l...   Mar 18 2010, 01:20 AM
- - Bill Harris   The Quotable Phil is quoted in Science Daily: QUO...   Mar 18 2010, 09:27 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Mar 18 2010, 04:27 A...   Mar 18 2010, 12:42 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I've been trying to get the word out about thi...   Mar 19 2010, 02:22 PM
- - elakdawalla   The story is a bit goofy but at least they have th...   Mar 19 2010, 03:45 PM
- - Bill Harris   Goofy, silly and sensational headlining, but at le...   Mar 19 2010, 04:39 PM
- - nprev   It's amazing to watch how this story unfolds i...   Mar 19 2010, 05:16 PM
- - S_Walker   I've been searching for Ranger 9 impact scar, ...   Mar 19 2010, 06:10 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Ranger 9 looks to be outside the coverage we have ...   Mar 19 2010, 07:21 PM
- - Byran   Luna-21 found http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archi...   Mar 20 2010, 02:49 PM
- - kenny   No-one appears to have turned up Luna 16 to date, ...   Mar 21 2010, 08:18 PM
- - Geert   LROC side has images of Surveyor 6 and Surveyor 5....   Mar 22 2010, 02:09 AM
|- - Byran   QUOTE (Geert @ Mar 22 2010, 07:39 AM) Am ...   Mar 22 2010, 05:24 PM
- - Hungry4info   What about Ranger impacts? Or the Surveyor 2 crash...   Mar 22 2010, 06:40 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Everything will be looked for! The list of ta...   Mar 22 2010, 07:15 PM
|- - S_Walker   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Mar 22 2010, 03:15 P...   Mar 22 2010, 07:56 PM
- - Byran   QUOTE Caption: Bang! On April 14th 1970, the A...   Mar 23 2010, 10:05 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   That has got to be the best man-made impact site w...   Mar 23 2010, 01:54 PM
- - Explorer1   Now that's what I'm talking about! Goo...   Mar 23 2010, 11:28 PM
- - Geert   Most probably it's just one of the many rock...   Mar 25 2010, 12:55 PM
- - kenny   Looks more like a boulder to me, with its uniform ...   Mar 25 2010, 01:31 PM
- - Byran   Luna-16 http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/20...   Mar 25 2010, 04:54 PM
- - nprev   That's one of the clearest shots yet.   Mar 26 2010, 05:30 AM
- - Geert   The list at the LROC site states a preliminary pos...   Apr 10 2010, 10:23 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I didn't know we had access to that image yet....   Apr 10 2010, 01:53 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 10 2010, 08:53 P...   Apr 10 2010, 03:11 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks for the tip! I'm learning a lot ...   Apr 10 2010, 05:35 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   How far apart are they in the image Phil, is it po...   Apr 10 2010, 05:45 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is a locator image for Luna 20 and the Luna 1...   Apr 10 2010, 05:53 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Wow...good eye   Apr 10 2010, 06:05 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The large crater in that locator image is 4 km nor...   Apr 10 2010, 06:15 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Here's the new comparison image. (PS I really...   Apr 10 2010, 06:47 PM
|- - kenny   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 10 2010, 07:47 P...   Apr 11 2010, 08:01 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (kenny @ Apr 11 2010, 01:01 PM) Now...   Apr 12 2010, 03:55 AM
|- - kenny   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Apr 12 2010, 04:55 A...   Apr 12 2010, 08:32 AM
- - djellison   I can almost convince myself that the crash landin...   Apr 10 2010, 06:54 PM
- - Phil Stooke   If this is Luna 18 it obviously landed - rather th...   Apr 10 2010, 08:00 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 11 2010, 03:00 A...   Apr 11 2010, 12:15 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 11 2010, 01:15 AM) Imp...   Apr 11 2010, 12:28 AM
- - kenny   I agree that Phil's object is Luna 18. Geert...   Apr 11 2010, 07:39 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (kenny @ Apr 11 2010, 02:39 PM) I a...   Apr 11 2010, 09:43 AM
|- - ilbasso   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 11 2010, 05:43 AM) Mig...   Apr 12 2010, 03:16 AM
- - Hungry4info   I'm not convinced. Looking at the shadow gives...   Apr 11 2010, 10:17 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Here's a finder image for Luna 16 - I just f...   Apr 11 2010, 12:15 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is where my Luna 18 candidate is: and here...   Apr 11 2010, 01:14 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 11 2010, 08:14 P...   Apr 11 2010, 03:08 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is Surveyor 3 in the most recent released ima...   Apr 12 2010, 11:59 AM
- - Astro0   Great work as always Phil. Thought I'd try a ...   Apr 13 2010, 11:27 AM
- - PDP8E   Here is a tortured enhancement of LUNOKHOD 2 made...   May 27 2010, 01:56 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Interesting! By the way, only a couple of wee...   May 27 2010, 01:18 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is a possible candidate for the Chang-e-1 imp...   May 31 2010, 03:04 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Another possible impact crater... this might be SM...   Jun 1 2010, 01:00 AM
- - Phil Stooke   The new release is out... and to celebrate it, her...   Jun 23 2010, 09:05 PM
- - Phil Stooke   ... and the nearby 'playa' which was the a...   Jun 23 2010, 09:10 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is Surveyor 7 from the raw image instead of t...   Jun 24 2010, 12:35 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have waited to see this for so long. WOW!   Jun 24 2010, 02:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is an extreme enlargement of the area aroun...   Jun 24 2010, 03:11 PM
- - kenny   How extremely nice ... I am just looking at your ...   Jun 27 2010, 10:29 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks, Kenny! Phil   Jun 27 2010, 11:10 AM
- - antipode   Wow! Slightly OT, but is that a 'pond...   Jun 27 2010, 11:03 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, it's one of many ponds of impact melt aro...   Jun 28 2010, 12:30 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Here's a nice recently released LROC image of ...   Oct 14 2010, 03:57 PM
- - gndonald   Supposedly the LRO has imaged the Lunar 23 & 2...   Mar 31 2012, 03:05 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (gndonald @ Mar 31 2012, 04:05 PM) ...   Mar 31 2012, 04:08 PM
- - Decepticon   Here. Cool! http://www.spaceref.com/news/view...   Mar 31 2012, 03:37 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Luna 23 was an LPOD a few days ago. I have to say...   Mar 31 2012, 04:31 PM
- - Paolo   even before these images were released, the Lavoch...   Mar 31 2012, 05:22 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Interesting... but I never heard that stated befor...   Apr 1 2012, 12:03 PM
- - Paolo   Surveyor 7 - America's Last Lunar Unmanned Lan...   Sep 7 2012, 07:08 PM
- - Paolo   I have been reading the article "Declassifyin...   Oct 13 2012, 08:36 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Oct 13 2012, 04:36 PM) I s...   Oct 14 2012, 02:13 AM
- - dvandorn   I would still like to see if there is any sign of ...   Oct 14 2012, 04:19 AM
- - remcook   Interesting paper about Luna landers: http://www.s...   Nov 9 2012, 01:26 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is a possible site for the Apollo 14 LM ascen...   Apr 8 2013, 06:10 PM
- - jasonjason   The most interesting object I found in my searches...   May 4 2013, 02:41 AM
- - Geert   QUOTE (jasonjason @ May 4 2013, 10:41 AM)...   May 4 2013, 10:01 AM
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