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Aug 26 2010, 05:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 279 |
Hmmm..."Kepler 9". (Sounds a bit Star Trek to me!)
Two transiting saturnoids, orbiting a "sun-like star" in a 2:1 resonance of 38 days and 19 days. Orbital parameters change slightly over time, suggesting a third planet candidate. This is a possible hot-Earth of 1.5 Earth-diameters much closer in. The news in brief: "Demonstration of transit-timing alteration allowing for otherwise unseen planets to have their orbits calculated - allowing for 'discovery' of planets that may lie in the habitable zone of stars even if they're not seen transiting." |
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Aug 26 2010, 06:24 PM
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#647
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 12-November 06 Member No.: 1354 |
umph.
First detection of multiple planets in one system using transits. (Is that right?) Anyway, http://kepler.nasa.gov/Mission/discoveries/ Count of confirmed planets is now 7. |
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Aug 26 2010, 07:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 25-October 05 From: California Member No.: 535 |
The Kepler Planet Counter on the website should be updated soon...it still stands at 005.
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Aug 28 2010, 06:43 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 19-August 09 From: Dallas Member No.: 4905 |
There is the link to very interesting paper about recent discovery.
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Sep 10 2010, 02:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 9-September 08 Member No.: 4334 |
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Sep 21 2010, 08:46 AM
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Don't know if it has already been posted, anyway data about all Kepler planets candidates are available online:
http://archive.stsci.edu/kepler/planet_candidates.html Most of the planets have periods below 40 days... and it's quite obvious, as data have been collected for 43 days; but I don't understand how planets with >100 days period can be in the list. I can't understrand all of the data: is it possibile to obtain from them planets min/max distance from its star and planet surface temperature? For example, this planet has 1.5 Earth radius: http://archive.stsci.edu/kepler/data_searc...pler_id=3541800 But how far from its star is it, and which is (or could be) planet temperature (not considering possible greenhouse effects)? |
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Sep 21 2010, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1417 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
You can make a rough assumption of the stellar mass from the given stellar radius. Then with the orbital period of the planet in hand, calculate its semi-major axis.
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Sep 21 2010, 10:00 AM
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Sep 21 2010, 11:34 AM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
I thought they got stellar mass from things like stellar type. How would you know the radius of the star from direct measurements?
Temperatures you can estimate by balancing the energy from incoming starlight with outgoing thermal radiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_temperature) |
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Sep 21 2010, 08:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1417 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
I thought they got stellar mass from things like stellar type. How would you know the radius of the star from direct measurements? If you know the brightness and temperature (from colour), you can estimate the radius. QUOTE ("cassiolo") I don't know which formulas to use. Kepler's Third Law of planetary motion. -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Sep 22 2010, 07:02 AM
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Kepler's Third Law of planetary motion. I read "K" is 1 for Earth+Sun, but can't understand how to calculate it for other systems. |
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Sep 22 2010, 07:35 AM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
If you know the brightness and temperature (from colour), you can estimate the radius. Indeed, so this is not possible with Kepler alone, right? |
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Sep 22 2010, 02:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1417 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
Indeed, so this is not possible with Kepler alone, right? Actually, since Kepler is a photometer, it's quite capable of determining a star's brightness and colour, the first of which are how it's looking for planets. QUOTE ("cassioli") I read "K" is 1 for Earth+Sun, but can't understand how to calculate it for other systems. From Wikipedia's page, where P is the orbital period, and a is the semi-major axis. Since you know three of the four values, you can easily calculate the fourth, missing value. -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Sep 22 2010, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 9-September 08 Member No.: 4334 |
I don't understand where the temperatures are coming from. 6867155 has a period of 206 days, and the star is 0.927 solar radii. So if the star is mostly Sunlike, and the potential planet has a Venus-like period; why does it have a predicted temperature of 4118 Kelvin? Or are those the star surface temperatures?
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Sep 22 2010, 02:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 723 Joined: 13-June 04 Member No.: 82 |
I don't understand where the temperatures are coming from. 6867155 has a period of 206 days, and the star is 0.927 solar radii. So if the star is mostly Sunlike, and the potential planet has a Venus-like period; why does it have a predicted temperature of 4118 Kelvin? Or are those the star surface temperatures? That is the star's photospheric temperature. |
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