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Sep 22 2010, 04:32 PM
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#661
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. So to determine how many AUs any planet is far from its star, I have just to divide its period by Earth period? If that is correct, the most interesting planets are: id KOI Rp Earth radius Kp Epoc Period (days) Teff (K) Logg (cm/s/s) R* (solar) Semimajor axis(UA) 8018547 902 0,83 8,30 15,8 169,808 83,90 4312 4,616000 0,940 0,229874 10666242 198 3,43 34,30 14,3 86,369 87,23 5538 4,629000 0,806 0,238995 6862328 865 0,63 6,30 15,1 155,237 119,02 5560 4,704000 1,232 0,326085 6867155 868 1,04 10,40 15,2 141,431 206,79 4118 4,517000 0,927 0,566545 Most far/slow planet is 10666242 (83,369 days, 0,24 UA = 36 mln km) I can't understand how periods greater than Kepler mission length have been determined. Edit: wait, I forgot a root... Ap[AU] = (Pp^2 / Pt^2 ) ^ 1/3 Is this correct? Then 10666242 semimajor axis would be 0,385 AU? (87,23^2 / 365 ^ 2) ^ 1/3 |
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Sep 22 2010, 04:46 PM
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#662
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 9-September 08 Member No.: 4334 |
Ah, thanks. That makes a lot more sense.
If that candidate is really a planet, it'd be pretty close to the habitable zone -- maybe within it, since that star's a bit smaller and cooler than the sun -- though it's Jupiter-size. |
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Sep 22 2010, 07:35 PM
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#663
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Director of Galilean Photography Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Cassioli,
That formula is only valid for the Solar System (or a very close to Sun mass star). The constant Sun mass cancels out on both sides of the equation, leaving the relationship between period and distance. To calculate, I think you want the gravitational formulas, available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_perio..._a_central_body Given an estimate of the central mass based on stellar type, a distance can be calculated. -------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Sep 23 2010, 07:23 AM
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#664
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
Actually, since Kepler is a photometer, it's quite capable of determining a star's brightness and colour, the first of which are how it's looking for planets. Right, a photometer measures the amount of light. But to determine colour you need at least two wavelengths where you measure the light. From browsing the Kepler website and wikipedia, it seems they only measure the light throughout the entire 400-850 nm band and there is no spectral resolution. Hence no colour determination. |
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Sep 24 2010, 09:40 AM
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#665
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Member Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 24-March 04 From: Finland Member No.: 63 |
All the stars Kepler observes should be well known from previous sky surveys and other observations. After all they are relatively bright stars, all Kepler is adding is a huge amount of constant photometry for each. Therefore a lot of basic characteristics of the stars should be already known beforehand. Additionally I am sure Kepler scientists will request additional observations of candidate star systems.
-------------------- Antti Kuosmanen
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Sep 25 2010, 02:44 PM
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#666
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
I think the Kepler site itself has a nice explanation of what they do.
http://www.kepler.arc.nasa.gov/Science/cha...ticsOfTransits/ --Greg |
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Sep 29 2010, 04:03 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
The latest update has arrived here. Biggest news: there will be a discovery announcement in early November. Next biggest news: Kepler 9d, the hot superearth, will soon be upgraded from "potential" to "planet."
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Oct 20 2010, 10:03 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
Kepler insider, "Dr. Jason Steffen of Fermi National Laboratory in Batavia, Ill., will shed light on NASA's recent ventures in the stars during the Harry Nelson Endowed Lecture of Astronomy on Thursday, October 21, at 7:30 p.m." at Augustana College in Rock Island, IL. For more information, see here.
I'm looking forward to early November. Reason 1: The US midterm elections will be over, so no more political attack ads on TV. Reason 2: Anticipating a Kepler discovery announcement. |
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Oct 20 2010, 10:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
It was what, 6 months ago that somebody on the team remarked that NASA HQ had asked them for a press release in November, to be followed by another one a few weeks later. Followed by the big AAS meeting in Seattle in February, which is as noted by Bill Borucki is when they'd have something real to discuss.
I'd expect the press release in November to contain a few more confirmed planets, which is certainly exciting in its own right. |
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Oct 24 2010, 03:01 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
The Kepler Asteroseismic Science Consortium (KASC) at Aarhus University in Denmark will hold a media teleconference on Tuesday, Oct. 26, at 11 a.m. EDT to discuss the latest discoveries about stars and their structures using data from NASA's Kepler spacecraft." (full release)
Probably not an announcement of planets based on the wording, but probably a significant announcement nevertheless... |
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Oct 27 2010, 10:14 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
The talk turned out to be a nice summary of how Kepler is contributing to the field of asteroseismology. Slides are here.
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Nov 1 2010, 07:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
I'm reading through "The Occurrence and Mass Distribution of Close-in Super-Earths, Neptunes, and Jupiters" authored by Howard and Marcy from UC-Berkeley and a bunch of other people. The official release is behind a paywall:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/330/6004/653 but if you search the title in everybody's favorite search engine you can find it at the Keck web site (I won't paste the link without permission). Regarding Kepler: QUOTE The Kepler mission (31) is currently surveying 156,000 faint stars for transiting planets as small as the Earth. Our power law model predicts that Kepler will detect a bounty of close-in small planets: an occurrence rate of 22% for P < 50 days and M sin i = 1–8 MEarth, corresponding to 1–2 Earth-radii assuming terrestrial, Earth-like density (5.5 kg m^-3). When the mission is complete, we estimate (see SOM) that Kepler will have detected the transits of 120– 260 of these plausibly terrestrial worlds orbiting the ~10^4 G and K dwarfs brighter than 13th magnitude (32, 33). QUOTE To estimate the number of planets detected by the Kepler mission with P < 50 d and radii
of 1–2 Earth-radii (implying masses of 1–8 MEarth assuming Earth density of 5.5 kg m^-3), [...big snip...] we find that 1.2–2.6% of stars (68% confidence interval) will harbor a [Kepler-detectable] transiting planet with the specified parameters. |
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Nov 2 2010, 12:51 PM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
It's also available here: http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.0143
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Nov 8 2010, 07:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
QUOTE Nov. 17 Astronomy Lecture Explores Catching Shadows: Kepler's Search for New Worlds Wednesday, Nov. 17 at 7 p.m., in the Smithwick Theatre at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills As part of the 12th annual Silicon Valley Astronomy Lecture Series, Astronomer Natalie Batalha from San Jose State University and the Kepler Mission, will present Catching Shadows: Kepler's Search for New Worlds. Humanity's quest to learn about the existence of other worlds like our own has made a huge step forward with the launch of NASA's Kepler spacecraft in March 2009. The mission is designed to survey a slice of the Milky Way Galaxy to identify planets orbiting other stars. Kepler has the advantage that it can find planets as small as Earth in or near the habitable zone of each star. It will help us determine if such planets are abundant in our galaxy. Dr. Batalha will describe the techniques used by the Kepler team to identify Earth-size planets and share some of the mission discoveries to date. http://www.foothill.fhda.edu/ast/news.htm#Anchor1 |
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Nov 13 2010, 01:31 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 1-February 10 Member No.: 5210 |
Interesting quote from Geoffrey Marcy in a recent space.com article:
"Many of the candidates Kepler discovered are now getting verified with radial velocity confirmations. 'On Feb. 1, we'll announce all of them — a huge avalanche of exoplanet candidates,' Marcy said." |
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