Other Satellites On Tc |
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Dec 22 2004, 01:07 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Other than the Iapetus encounter, I noticed that flybys of Mimas (108,000 km), Enceladus (189,000 km), and Rhea (153,500km) are mentioned. Is anything planned for these flybys? I would normally just assume no, given their proximity to the Huygens mission (they are all on the 16th). But considering the Ta and Tc information sheets didn't mention the Tethys non-targeted flyby on Ta, I am surprised that they are mentioned at all. Given this, is any imaging planned?
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Dec 22 2004, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
The one I know for sure about is Rhea, where we should get a good view of its giant ray crater (rays are giant, the crater itself maybe fairly small)
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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Dec 22 2004, 02:55 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Great to hear. Will this include any of the wispy terrain?
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Dec 25 2004, 11:17 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 22 2004, 02:35 PM) The one I know for sure about is Rhea, where we should get a good view of its giant ray crater (rays are giant, the crater itself maybe fairly small) Do you know the approximate latitude and longitude of that crater ? I don't see it in Voyager-derived maps of Rhea (or maybe it's not obvious there), yet most of the areas in view in mid-January were rather well imaged by Voyager 1. |
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Dec 26 2004, 04:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 25 2004, 06:17 PM) QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 22 2004, 02:35 PM) The one I know for sure about is Rhea, where we should get a good view of its giant ray crater (rays are giant, the crater itself maybe fairly small) Do you know the approximate latitude and longitude of that crater ? I don't see it in Voyager-derived maps of Rhea (or maybe it's not obvious there), yet most of the areas in view in mid-January were rather well imaged by Voyager 1. Top Left bottom image Bjorn. http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Projects/Satu...s/rhea_full.jpg And link to site where this map was found. http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Projects/SaturnSatellites/ |
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Dec 26 2004, 05:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
Another great link with the orginal voyager image with that crater.
http://planetary.org/saturn/rhea.html |
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Dec 26 2004, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Wasn 't sure if it was in the Voyager images, nor do I remember the lat and lon of the ray crater. I was just told that the images taken in January will show that ray crater.
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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Dec 27 2004, 12:09 AM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
I managed to figure this out myself. North seems to be roughly up in this image:
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/view.php?id=506 Assuming this I made the attached preliminary cylindrical map by adding the Cassini data to areas of lower resolution Voyager coverage. I only very crudely corrected for varying illumination. The big crater at upper left is visible in exactly the same location (but at lower resolution) in the Voyager based map so this map seems to be correct. Longitude 0 is at the center of the map. The next step is to render this thing to see what Cassini will image... |
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Dec 27 2004, 05:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
^Amazing!
Have you had time to do the same to dione using the recent images? |
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Jan 11 2005, 02:24 PM
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Interesting...
QUOTE Spacecraft time (UTC) Ground time (UTC) Event Jan 16 06:08 Jan 16 07:15 Cassini flies by Mimas The flyby will be at a distance of 108,000 kilometers (67,000 miles) and a speed of 1.3 kilometers per second (2,900 miles per hour). This is just a little bit closer than Voyager 1 ever got. 06:16 07:23 Cassini flies by Enceladus The flyby will be at a distance of 189,000 kilometers (117,000 miles) and a speed of 10.2 kilometers per second (22,800 miles per hour). Voyager 2 got 50% closer than that, but with the difference in quality between Cassini''s and Voyager's cameras, the Cassini images will be more informative. 06:26 07:33 Saturn Periapsis At a distance of 4.8 Saturn radii from the planet (or 290,000 kilometers, or about 180,000 miles), this is just outside the orbit of Enceladus. 11:58 13:05 Descending ring plane crossing At a distance of 5.9 Saturn radii from the planet (or 360,000 kilometers, or about 220,000 miles), this is outside Enceladus' orbit, inside the E ring. Particles in the E ring are too small to be hazardous to Cassini. 15:51 16:58 Cassini flies by Rhea The flyby will be at a distance of 153,500 kilometers (95,400 miles) and a speed of 5.1 kilometers per second (11,400 miles per hour). Voyager 1 got two times closer than that, but with the difference in quality between Cassini''s and Voyager's cameras, the Cassini images will be more informative. From here bottom of page... http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/huygens...eline_0110.html |
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Jan 11 2005, 05:45 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
I hope this means they are doing imaging.
06:16 07:23 Cassini flies by Enceladus The flyby will be at a distance of 189,000 kilometers (117,000 miles) and a speed of 10.2 kilometers per second (22,800 miles per hour). Voyager 2 got 50% closer than that, but with the difference in quality between Cassini''s and Voyager's cameras, the Cassini images will be more informative. Not to mention that at Voyager's closest approach the scan platform was stuck and it didn't do any imaging at all! I have noticed that there have been no raw images since those taken January 1. Is this due to the Titan encounter. I know it was going to stop at some point, but I didn't think it was that far out. -------------------- |
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Jan 11 2005, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 11 2005, 10:45 AM) I hope this means they are doing imaging. 06:16 07:23 Cassini flies by Enceladus The flyby will be at a distance of 189,000 kilometers (117,000 miles) and a speed of 10.2 kilometers per second (22,800 miles per hour). Voyager 2 got 50% closer than that, but with the difference in quality between Cassini''s and Voyager's cameras, the Cassini images will be more informative. Not to mention that at Voyager's closest approach the scan platform was stuck and it didn't do any imaging at all! I have noticed that there have been no raw images since those taken January 1. Is this due to the Titan encounter. I know it was going to stop at some point, but I didn't think it was that far out. I just took a look at the imaging plans for Tc, and yes, Mimas, Enceladus, and Rhea observations are planned to compliment the Iapetus, Tethys, Dione, and Phoebe coverage we have already. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jan 11 2005, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE Mimas, Enceladus, and Rhea observations are planned to compliment the Iapetus, Tethys, Dione, and Phoebe coverage we have already. Phoebe? What observations can we get from such a large distance we didn't get from the June flyby? |
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Jan 11 2005, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (pioneer @ Jan 11 2005, 12:15 PM) QUOTE Mimas, Enceladus, and Rhea observations are planned to compliment the Iapetus, Tethys, Dione, and Phoebe coverage we have already. Phoebe? What observations can we get from such a large distance we didn't get from the June flyby? I meant that we already have regional scale (and in the case of Phoebe, local scale) coverage of Dione, Phoebe, Iapetus, and Tethys, and coverage in Tc will give us Enceladus, Mimas, and Rhea. Looking at the Enceladus coverage, looks like it will be a gap fill in the leading hemisphere. Not as good as Voyager's best coverage, but it is much better than what we have of that region. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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Jan 11 2005, 09:57 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Why has no imagery from Jan 1 to Jan 6 when they turned the instruments off been posted?
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