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Meteor Shower Reveals New Comet Neo, October Camelopardalids
ljk4-1
post Dec 5 2005, 02:51 PM
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http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=1233789

by Peter Jenniskens

SETI Institute scientist and meteor expert Peter Jenniskens reports in a
telegram issued by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center
(http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=1233789) that an unexpected
burst of meteors on October 5, 2005 has occurred, which betrayed the presence of
a thusfar unknown, potentially Earth-threatening, comet.

The burst of meteors radiated from a direction on the border of the
constellations Draco and Camelopardalis, and the new shower is called the
October Camelopardalids. The meteors were caused by dust ejected by an
Intermediate Long-Period comet during its previous return to the Sun, and the
detection of the comet's dust trail implies that the comet itself could wander
into Earth's path, if so directed by the gravitational pull of the planets. The
comet itself has not yet been discovered and is likely to return to Earth's
vicinity only once every 200 - 10,000 years. Chances are very small that Earth
will be at the intersection point at the time of the return, hence, there is no
immediate concern. The dust, however, is forensic evidence that may provide more insight into the nature of this new comet when the meteor shower is seen again in the future.

2005 OCTOBER 5 OUTBURST OF OCTOBER CAMELOPARDALIDS

Peter Jenniskens, Jarmo Moilanen, Esko Lyytinen, Ilkka Yrjölä, Jeff Brower

http://www.seti.org/atf/cf/{B0D4BC0E-D59B-...}/WGNreport.pdf


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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dvandorn
post Dec 6 2005, 03:36 PM
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Yep - without clicking the links, I can tell you the names were Regor (Roger spelled backwards, for Roger Chaffee), Navi (Ivan spelled backwards, for Virgil Ivan Grissom) and Dnecos (for Edward H. White II -- i.e., the Second, which Dnecos is, backwards).

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post Dec 12 2005, 04:07 PM
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Paper: astro-ph/0512256

Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:09:29 GMT (1409kb)

Title: Origin and Dynamical Evolution of Comets and their Reservoirs

Authors: Alessandro Morbidelli

Comments: Lectures on comets dynamics and outer solar system formation. 86
pages, 34 figures, 180 references
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This text was originally written to accompany a series of lectures that I
gave at the `35th Saas-Fee advanced course' in Switzerland and at the Institute
for Astronomy of the University of Hawaii. It reviews my current understanding
of the dynamics of comets and of the origin and primordial sculpting of their
reservoirs. It starts discussing the structure of the Kuiper belt and the
current dynamics of Kuiper belt objects, including scattered disk objects. Then
it discusses the dynamical evolution of Jupiter family comets from the
trans-Neptunian region, and of long period comets from the Oort cloud. The
formation of the Oort cloud is then reviewed, as well as the primordial
sculpting of the Kuiper belt. Finally, these issues are revisited in the light
of a new model of giant planets evolution that has been developed to explain
the origin of the late heavy bombardment of the terrestrial planets.

\\ ( http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0512256 , 1301kb)


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 4 2006, 05:23 PM
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Paper: astro-ph/0601022

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 07:54:10 GMT (461kb)

Title: The red rain phenomenon of Kerala and its possible extraterrestrial
origin

Authors: Godfrey Louis and A. Santhosh Kumar (Mahatma Gandhi University,
Kottayam, India)

Comments: 18 pages, 15 figures, accepted for publication in Astrophysics and
Space Science
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A red rain phenomenon occurred in Kerala, India starting from 25th July 2001,
in which the rainwater appeared coloured in various localized places that are
spread over a few hundred kilometers in Kerala. Maximum cases were reported
during the first 10 days and isolated cases were found to occur for about 2
months. The striking red colouration of the rainwater was found to be due to
the suspension of microscopic red particles having the appearance of biological
cells. These particles have no similarity with usual desert dust. An estimated
minimum quantity of 50,000 kg of red particles has fallen from the sky through
red rain. An analysis of this strange phenomenon further shows that the
conventional atmospheric transport processes like dust storms etc. cannot
explain this phenomenon. The electron microscopic study of the red particles
shows fine cell structure indicating their biological cell like nature. EDAX
analysis shows that the major elements present in these cell like particles are
carbon and oxygen. Strangely, a test for DNA using Ethidium Bromide dye
fluorescence technique indicates absence of DNA in these cells. In the context
of a suspected link between a meteor airburst event and the red rain, the
possibility for the extraterrestrial origin of these particles from cometary
fragments is discussed.

\\ ( http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0601022 , 461kb)


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 06:23 PM)
Title: The red rain phenomenon of Kerala and its possible extraterrestrial
origin
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Mad stuff. Does anyone know of any other research into this? Seems like reasonable research but it needs a bit more work to support the potential extra terrestrial origin claim.
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- ljk4-1   Meteor Shower Reveals New Comet Neo   Dec 5 2005, 02:51 PM
- - dvandorn   Camelopardalids? Don't ask me why, but that n...   Dec 5 2005, 07:12 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2005, 01:12 PM)Camelo...   Dec 5 2005, 08:16 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2005, 12:12 PM)Camelo...   Dec 5 2005, 09:58 PM
|- - TheChemist   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2005, 09:12 PM)Camelo...   Dec 5 2005, 11:52 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Dec 5 2005, 05:52 PM)Try ...   Dec 6 2005, 03:41 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Dec 5 2005, 10:41 PM)It...   Dec 6 2005, 03:15 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Ok, forget that hooker thing! That's noth...   Dec 6 2005, 04:28 AM
|- - TheChemist   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 6 2005, 06:28 AM)Ok,...   Dec 6 2005, 11:54 AM
- - odave   In terms of celestial names that are hard to chew ...   Dec 6 2005, 11:24 AM
- - dvandorn   Yep - without clicking the links, I can tell you t...   Dec 6 2005, 03:36 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Paper: astro-ph/0512256 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:...   Dec 12 2005, 04:07 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Paper: astro-ph/0601022 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 07...   Jan 4 2006, 05:23 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 4 2006, 06:23 PM)Tit...   Jan 4 2006, 05:55 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 4 2006, 10:55 AM)Mad stu...   Jan 4 2006, 06:34 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Asteroid breakup event covered the planet Earth in...   Jan 19 2006, 03:56 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 4 2006, 07:34 PM)I'd s...   Jan 20 2006, 10:54 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 20 2006, 05:54 PM)The f...   Jan 21 2006, 03:15 PM
- - Myran   Around here we got protococcus nivalis which cause...   Jan 20 2006, 09:59 PM
- - ljk4-1   http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/0082006053109...   May 31 2006, 05:35 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   To say that I'm suspicious of this report is a...   May 31 2006, 11:25 PM
- - ljk4-1   CNN/Popular Science have something to say on the R...   Jun 5 2006, 02:49 AM


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