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Zhurong Lander/Rover, Surface Operations at Utopia Planitia
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post May 15 2021, 01:10 AM
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Apparently: 109.7 E, 25.1 N; (top middle of this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenthes_quad...Region-mola.png )

A bit North of the crater called Bluff....
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post May 15 2021, 01:56 AM
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From here.
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On CCTV it was reported that "first opportunity to downlink photos will be around midday-afternoon BJT", i.e. within next few hours. The relay orbiter is currently on the opposite side of Mars.


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post May 15 2021, 01:57 AM
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CTX image of the landing site. scale is 5.7 m/pixel. The large crater at bottom is 1.8 km across.


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post May 15 2021, 02:30 AM
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post May 15 2021, 07:32 AM
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The coordinates have been moved a bit, to 25.1 N, 109.9 E. That moves it out of the CTX image volcanopele posted and puts it about here:
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The hills seen in the first orbital image are at lower right.
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post May 15 2021, 07:58 AM
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Chinese news media are reporting "nine minutes of terror" during the landing, so two more than the usual American seven minutes!

The official landing time from CGTN was 23:18 UTC (GMT) so 7 minutes later than was being predicted by Chinese sources before the descent.

The whole craft (both orbiter and lander) started descending from orbit at about 17:00 UTC and entered the long descent trajectory. The landing module, consisting of the lander and the rover, separated from the orbiter after 3 hours at about 20:00 UTC according to the CNSA. Then, 30 minutes later, so about 20:30 UTC, the orbiter fired its engine to leave the decent trajectory (which it was also now on, temporarily, to drop off the lander) and returned to a safe orbit. After being dropped off the lander had a 3-hour voyage to entry interface. These announced times seem to be approximate.

I believe this is a new technique for Martian atmospheric entry, but was previously used by Galileo at Jupiter and Cassini at Titan.
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post May 15 2021, 04:42 PM
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Xinhua News Agency has reported more details of the landing. No pictures as yet.

It took ground controllers more than an hour to establish the success of the pre-programmed landing. They had to wait for the rover to autonomously unfold its solar panels and antenna to send the signals after landing, and there was a time delay of more than 17 minutes due to the 320-million-km distance between Earth and Mars.

"The Mars landing of the Tianwen-1 mission has been a total success," Zhang Kejian, head of the CNSA, announced at the Beijing Aerospace Control Center.

It will take a further 7 to 8 days for the rover to detect the surrounding environment and conduct self checks before moving down from the lander to the Martian surface.

Xinhua post-landing update

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post May 15 2021, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (kenny @ May 15 2021, 06:42 PM) *
Xinhua News Agency has reported more details of the landing. No pictures as yet.

It took ground controllers more than an hour to establish the success of the pre-programmed landing.

Xinhua post-landing update


Is there someone with some insight into the likely comms opportunities? For instance, I have seen speculation that on May 17 Zhurong will communicate with Tianwen-1 via ESA MarsExpress. I would have assumed that Tianwen-1 is over the horizon *much* longer than lower-orbit assets. Am I missing something? Is someone running the numbers?
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post May 15 2021, 08:29 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/df2mz/status/1393617519257268225

"This screen shot from CCTV seems to show that the Zhurong rover already communicated with Earth, opened its solar panels and downloaded some data." Edgar Kaiser

"rover landed still; started to communicate with earth; communication finished; rover unlocked/lifted up; solar wings opened; obiter adjusted position . Data downloaded in last 3 lines"


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post May 15 2021, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (kenny @ May 15 2021, 02:58 AM) *
I believe this is a new technique for Martian atmospheric entry, but was previously used by Galileo at Jupiter and Cassini at Titan.


New for Mars orbiters, perhaps. But Beagle 2 was delivered this way on Mars Express' hyperbolic approach
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post May 15 2021, 09:08 PM
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Some rough translations of the screenshot here... I think. Feel free to improve upon them with the times and copyable text.
8:01:24 火星车静态定姿 = Putting the rover in the proper attitude.
8:14:39 火星车对地通信开始 = Start of rover-to-ground comm.
8:32:04 火星车对地通信结束 = End of rover-to-ground comm.
8:38:04 火星车脱插分离,车体抬升 = Rover separation (from lander?) and body lifted.
8:59:04 火星车太阳翼展平 = Rover solar wing deployed.
9:48:39 环绕器-Z对日姿态调轨开始 = Orbiter Z-axis starts moving toward the sun.
12:00:39 固连遥测探头数据点播下传 = On-demand? telemetry download?
12:29:39 近距离遥测探头数据点播下传 = Short-range telemetry download?
13:15:39 降轨,两器分离数据点播下传 = Decrease orbit, separate the two devices? and download data on demand?


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post May 15 2021, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (Huguet @ May 15 2021, 08:29 PM) *
https://mobile.twitter.com/df2mz/status/1393617519257268225

"This screen shot from CCTV seems to show that the Zhurong rover already communicated with Earth, opened its solar panels and downloaded some data." Edgar Kaiser

"rover landed still; started to communicate with earth; communication finished; rover unlocked/lifted up; solar wings opened; obiter adjusted position . Data downloaded in last 3 lines"


Perhaps I am reaching, but is that a picture of a rock up on that screenshot?

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post May 15 2021, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (tolis @ May 15 2021, 06:33 PM) *
Perhaps I am reaching, but is that a picture of a rock up on that screenshot?

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Mabe they are working with some visual data. But they didn't get it right yet. Hard to wait for the images...


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post May 15 2021, 09:44 PM
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It looks like there's some sort of reflecting going on somewhere creating two image planes here -- one being the reflection of the screen in the glass(?) and the other being whatever is behind it. For some reason I can't quite make sense of what's going on. Just below the rock-like shape, there's this white jagged line. Is that a graphical representation of a radio signal? A reflected bit of light from somewhere? I'm not sure which is the original screen (the white line or the rock-like shape) and which is a reflection of something unrelated.
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post May 15 2021, 11:11 PM
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Both Viking Landers were also deployed from orbit around Mars, like Tianwan - but I think what's unique here, and is more similar to ExoMars-TGO with Schiaparelli, Mars Express with Beagle 2, Galileo and Cassini Huygens compared to Viking - is that in those 4, the 'parent' spacecraft put itself on a collision course before deploying the lander and then doing a divert maneuver. In the case of Viking 1 and 2 - the landers themselves did their own deorbit burn to being entry into the atmosphere.

I think the only unique corner of all those boxes to be ticked yesterday is a parent spacecraft already in orbit putting itself into a trajectory for landing before deploying the lander and then doing a divert maneuver.

Phew.
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