The western route, 5th leg after stop at Absecon / Reeds Bay |
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The western route, 5th leg after stop at Absecon / Reeds Bay |
 Jul 13 2009, 07:00 PM
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 Special Cookie  Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228  |
Fred, if that's Iazu, let's wrap this Endeavour story fast...
 How tall is that martian beast?... 
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jul 13 2009, 07:35 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Fred's right that is Iazu again - great view.
As to the height, Google Earth says that the peaks are 200 - 300 m above the surrounding plain. In that image the peaks are about 10 pixels high - at roughly 40km that makes what we can see the top 100m or so. -------------------- |
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Jul 13 2009, 08:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Wow, what a view!
 I saw that sequence (Iazu's pancam) in the plan but forgot to check it afterwards. The current view at the horizon is, imo, the most exciting since the beginning of this mission. |
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Jul 13 2009, 08:25 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
James, sorry for asking but, that's not all Iazu, right? There are some features to the right of Cook that belong to Endeavour, or am I wrong?
I was taking this previous image as a reference: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA11837_fig1.jpg -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jul 13 2009, 08:39 PM
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 The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Craig Covault - speaking live on SpaceflightNow's video coverage of the shuttle launch - has just been saying that MRO has found *clays* inside Endeavour crater... and as (paraphrasing here) clays don't form/last long in acidic water, this suggests that the water there was, for at least some time, less acidic than previously thought...
Anyone know anything about this..? -------------------- |
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Jul 13 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Jul 13 2009, 09:25 PM)  that's not all Iazu, right? Right. See this post if you need convincing... |
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Jul 14 2009, 02:00 AM
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Stu, my understanding is that the "clays" that MRO has been discovering are the phylosilicates that have been discussed at length, especially in the site selection deliberations for MSL.
I'd have the think that any clays found within Endeavour would have to be remnants of earlier aqueous conditions than those which were involved in laying down the Meridiani sulfate sandstones. And considering there must be pieces of the crust underlying those sandstone deposits in the walls of Endeavour, I guess that's not terribly surprising. Now we need to really hope and pray that Oppy can make it to some of the clay deposits and give them a careful examination. For one thing, clays are the most likely places to find fossilized life remnants, especially bacterial fossils. While Oppy is not all that well equipped to look for anything like that, it could very likely constrain the possibilities in a favorable manner. Take *real* good care of Oppy for us, guys... now, more than ever, it seems the payoff if we get to Endeavour could be truly astounding. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Jul 14 2009, 05:59 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Yeah. When Endeavour became the goal, I perused the raw mineralogical maps available from MRO. I found a very small patch of possible phyllosilicates on the far, eastern side of the crater. It would be significant if newer imagery, or reprocessed imagery was indicating phyllosilicates to be more common.
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Jul 15 2009, 08:57 PM
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Today was another driving sol, where almost 70m were covered in a WNW heading.
I would expect a heading change to NW on the next two or three driving sols to avoid some "purgatoids" due west.
PS: Map update tomorrow, if time permits. |
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Jul 16 2009, 05:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
I realized that I should have better referenced the CRISM imagery I referred to in my previous post. The raw imagery I referred to is here. Apparently my recollection of the location was faulty. The small anomaly I described was not on the far, eastern side of the crater. It is closer to the center of the crater. It is on the far, eastern side of the image.
Of course, all the normal cautions apply to any interpretations of such non-calibrated imagery. -------------------- ...Tom
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Jul 16 2009, 08:31 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2918 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
I while ago somebody wrote, I think it was Phil, that we were heading to higher terrain due in a few kilometers (2?).
Does somebody know whether it's still the case or can we say the western route is just flat for a while? You'll understand that I'm looking for a vintage high place to get a better view. -------------------- |
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Jul 16 2009, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (climber @ Jul 16 2009, 01:31 AM) You'll understand that I'm looking for a vintage high place to get a better view. millésime? sur Mars? -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 16 2009, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2918 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 16 2009, 04:12 PM) millésime? sur Mars? ...and we'll call it (Avril) Lavigne... -------------------- |
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Jul 16 2009, 09:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 529 |
Ahhh....a touch of Canadian content...
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Jul 16 2009, 09:47 PM
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Can't have too much of that.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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