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Rakhir
post Oct 3 2008, 08:22 PM
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This information from Emily is amazing.
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00001673/

ICE is alive and may perhaps be assigned to a new mission. blink.gif
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post Oct 4 2008, 05:56 PM
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OK -- there are a few reasons why, at the end of a spacecraft's mission, you would want to shut it down and turn off its systems, including its radio transmitter/receiver.

It's true that funding only really pays for the ground support of a mission. Extended missions are funded to pay for the DSN time it takes to communicate with the spacecraft, and to pay the people tending the spacecraft, both in an engineering and in a scientific sense.

Turning off the spacecraft may just be a formality on a vehicle that is nearly out of RCS fuel, for example, or a vehicle that is about to go into a power-negative state for longer than it can ever be expected to recover from. Each of these things happens with fair frequency.

Another reason to turn off a spacecraft is to shut down any further requests for an extended mission. On a political level, someone in management somewhere may be sick to death of seeing extension after extension to a given mission drain funds off from projects that manager is more interested (or invested) in. A final directive to a final mission extension is often "shut down the spacecraft in such a way that it cannot be revived," or words to that effect. It's a way of stating with certainty that *no* further extensions will be allowed.

And, if you have no further interest in using the spacecraft, there is a legal principle that suggests you want to deny that resource to anyone who might want to use it for purposes of which our country may not approve. Now, I grant you, there is very little one could do with a 30-year-old probe that would violate America's interests... but, as with a lot of legal principles, it looks at low-likelihood events with very large consequences and decides what actual preventive measures are warranted. In some cases, you want to shut down your spacecraft at the end of their missions just to make sure no one else tries to use them.

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- Rakhir   ICE is alive !   Oct 3 2008, 08:22 PM
- - climber   Full inline quote removed - you know should know b...   Oct 3 2008, 08:27 PM
|- - Rakhir   Not so much. Last one was mid-September However...   Oct 3 2008, 08:56 PM
- - djellison   I actually said outloud when reading that entry ...   Oct 3 2008, 09:00 PM
- - dmuller   That is indeed most remarkable. I reckon the space...   Oct 3 2008, 11:23 PM
- - Vultur   That's really, really incredible. Was this a ...   Oct 4 2008, 05:50 AM
- - climber   I sometimes forget how to use the proper answer bu...   Oct 4 2008, 08:50 AM
|- - brellis   I'm curious to know who left the radio transmi...   Oct 4 2008, 11:23 AM
- - Juramike   An ignorant question here, but why would you instr...   Oct 4 2008, 12:02 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Juramike @ Oct 4 2008, 01:02 PM) W...   Oct 4 2008, 12:16 PM
|- - ugordan   Yes, but what's the harm in leaving the spacec...   Oct 4 2008, 12:49 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (ugordan @ Oct 4 2008, 07:49 AM) Ye...   Oct 4 2008, 05:10 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Oct 4 2008, 07:10 PM...   Oct 4 2008, 05:12 PM
|- - Hungry4info   Oh. I thought one needed to continue funding a mis...   Oct 4 2008, 05:17 PM
|- - brellis   Polluting the solar system with radio waves could ...   Oct 4 2008, 05:42 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (brellis @ Oct 4 2008, 07:42 PM) Po...   Oct 4 2008, 05:49 PM
|- - brellis   QUOTE (ugordan @ Oct 4 2008, 10:49 AM) I ...   Oct 4 2008, 10:56 PM
- - tasp   Has anyone looked over where ICE has been hanging ...   Oct 4 2008, 01:00 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (tasp @ Oct 4 2008, 08:00 PM) Has a...   Oct 5 2008, 05:07 PM
- - scalbers   Speaking of turning off spacecraft, I recall rumor...   Oct 4 2008, 01:05 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (scalbers @ Oct 4 2008, 02:05 PM) S...   Oct 4 2008, 02:32 PM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 4 2008, 02:32 PM) I...   Oct 4 2008, 05:40 PM
|- - infocat13   people turn off spacecraft for funding reasons.......   Nov 15 2008, 05:05 AM
|- - Weasle   I believe one of those papers that are hosted deta...   Nov 15 2008, 01:42 PM
- - marsbug   Thats genuinely cool! I bet it's been play...   Oct 4 2008, 02:07 PM
- - dvandorn   OK -- there are a few reasons why, at the end of a...   Oct 4 2008, 05:56 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 4 2008, 07:56 PM) A...   Oct 4 2008, 06:15 PM
- - climber   I guess dmuller would have to add ICE there: http:...   Oct 5 2008, 12:41 PM
|- - dmuller   QUOTE (climber @ Oct 5 2008, 10:41 PM) I ...   Oct 5 2008, 07:07 PM
- - Paolo   Two extracts from "Robotic Exploration of the...   Oct 5 2008, 07:05 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Oct 6 2008, 02:05 AM) Two ...   Oct 6 2008, 04:13 AM
|- - Weasle   I registered on the forums to let you all know. M...   Nov 6 2008, 02:55 PM
|- - robspace54   Fantastic! If he has access to any info on th...   Nov 8 2008, 03:42 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Weasle @ Nov 6 2008, 09:55 AM) If ...   Nov 8 2008, 07:05 PM
|- - Weasle   They have two missions planned and are discussing ...   Nov 9 2008, 01:08 AM
|- - robspace54   QUOTE (Weasle @ Nov 8 2008, 08:08 PM) The...   Nov 13 2008, 03:41 PM
|- - Weasle   My girlfriend scanned me some, 15 to 20 pictures f...   Nov 14 2008, 03:35 PM
|- - Weasle   Hmm, most of them are old files about ICE details,...   Nov 14 2008, 03:42 PM
|- - robspace54   QUOTE (Weasle @ Nov 14 2008, 10:35 AM) My...   Dec 15 2008, 03:40 PM
- - nprev   I'd like to know more about any putative retri...   Nov 9 2008, 02:23 AM
- - stevesliva   ICE was donated to the Smithsonian during the heyd...   Nov 9 2008, 03:41 AM
- - dmuller   I was wondering about the capture itself. Would a ...   Nov 9 2008, 08:51 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (dmuller @ Nov 9 2008, 02:51 PM) No...   Nov 10 2008, 02:06 AM
- - elakdawalla   Weasle sent me the files and I zipped 'em up a...   Nov 14 2008, 09:59 PM
|- - robspace54   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 14 2008, 04:59 P...   Nov 14 2008, 11:29 PM
- - robspace54   Here is a tiny URL link - http://tinyurl.com/6quh...   Nov 16 2008, 10:19 PM
|- - Pedro_Sondas   QUOTE (robspace54 @ Nov 17 2008, 12:19 AM...   Nov 30 2008, 04:50 PM
|- - robspace54   Wow! How did that happen? A TinyURL error? ...   Dec 2 2008, 09:09 PM
- - robspace54   A couple of ICE (ISEE-3) diagrams here... Rob   Nov 18 2008, 08:06 PM
- - robspace54   I broke the ISEE 1977 Press Kit into two parts to ...   Dec 4 2008, 01:29 PM
- - robspace54   And here is part 2.   Dec 4 2008, 01:31 PM
- - Jeffrey   I wonder what would be the point of turning off th...   Mar 5 2009, 03:48 PM
|- - tedstryk   A new mission is being studied - http://adsabs.har...   Aug 30 2009, 10:16 PM
- - Seryddwr   Has there been any more on this possibility? I wa...   Apr 21 2012, 01:17 PM
- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Seryddwr @ Apr 21 2012, 01:17 PM) ...   Apr 23 2012, 06:32 PM
- - Paolo   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 23 2012, 08:32 PM) ...   Apr 23 2012, 06:41 PM


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