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 Jun 27 2012, 05:45 PM
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wasn't the next Discovery mission selection to be announced this month?
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Jun 27 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (Paolo @ Jun 27 2012, 12:45 PM)  wasn't the next Discovery mission selection to be announced this month? NASA presentations have said 'Mid-July' http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2012/.../Green_LPSC.pdf |
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Jul 15 2012, 11:00 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 26-June 04 From: Austria Member No.: 89 |
"Exploring Titan by boat":
http://vimeo.com/44046816 I hope that TiME wins the decision of "Discovery 2012" ! Rob |
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Jul 16 2012, 04:21 AM
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Interesting video and presentation by Dr. Ellen Stofan. Not sure of the exact date of this talk but its been posted since the 2nd week of June. Her review of Titan's geology and the TIME mission is beautifully done.
An interesting revelation occurs at the 18:00 minute mark when she hints strongly that another volcano has been discovered in the radar swath of the Titan flyby 'last week'. If I have my dates correct that would be the T84 flyby SAR taken on June 7th! http://www.ciclops.org/view/7216/Rev167 Not exactly sure where along the T84 groundtrack http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=26929 the possible volcano is but can't wait to see that SAR. |
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Aug 21 2012, 01:05 AM
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I'm very distressed to learn today that a mars lander/seismograph was chosen rather than Time. Much as I like Mars and would like info on the interior, TiME seemed to have a much more potentially interesting payoff.
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Aug 21 2012, 01:06 AM
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It is what it is; gotta press on. Perhaps it will win the next Discovery round.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Aug 21 2012, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1153 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
just wondering (sorry if this has been already asked or if it's a silly question): since a northern mare landing seems to be ruled out until the 2040s, would a southern landing in Ontario work?
-------------------- I'm one of the most durable and fervent advocates of space exploration, but my take is that we could do it robotically at far less cost and far greater quantity and quality of results.
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 Aug 21 2012, 08:32 AM
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To me, a sad day for science and exploration!
 Another mission to the martian desert. We already have three rovers on Mars. They forget Venus, Europa, Titan, Enceladus and Triton! Yet Titan may be the right place to better understand the chemistry of carbon and the mechanisms that may lead to the emergence of a carbon-based lifeform. Titan has lakes, seas and rivers but people focus their attention on the martian desert and most people don't know Titan. Really surprinsing! |
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Aug 21 2012, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE They forget Venus, Europa, Titan, Enceladus and Triton! I suspect no-one's forgotten any of them. Where's the money?  P |
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Aug 21 2012, 10:45 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Er one of the three rovers on Mars is dead, so there are two operating.
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Aug 21 2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (MahFL @ Aug 21 2012, 12:45 PM) Er one of the three rovers on Mars is dead, so there are two operating. And that totally invalidates his point.... -------------------- |
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Aug 21 2012, 11:53 AM
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Everybody, once again a reminder: Review the rules (esp. 1.2 and 1.7) & post accordingly.
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Aug 21 2012, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (Paolo @ Aug 21 2012, 02:31 AM) just wondering (sorry if this has been already asked or if it's a silly question): since a northern mare landing seems to be ruled out until the 2040s, would a southern landing in Ontario work? One never says never in this business, but Ontario is (a) known to be shallow and (  is much smaller than Ligeia, and quite likely smaller than the landing ellipse for a passive descent.
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Aug 22 2012, 01:30 AM
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While the time-sensitivity of TiME was all the more reason to select it now, it may have also contributed to the budgetary and technical risk associated with the mission. I can imagine the project falling behind schedule, then having to (potentially massively) overspend to catch up. don't get me wrong, I was rooting for TiME because it is awesome, but there's almost no debating that Insight is the better Discovery mission.
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Aug 22 2012, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (rlorenz @ Aug 21 2012, 04:30 PM) One never says never in this business, but Ontario is (a) known to be shallow and ( is much smaller than Ligeia, and quite likely smaller than the landing ellipse for a passive descent.One may expect that the level of Ontario Lacus could rise as the Winter season approaches in the southern hemisphere (Winter Solstice in 2016 if I'm correct). Mezzoramia may become the Kraken Mare of the southern hemisphere (as Volcanopele had already suggested a few years ago). The south polar vortex recently observed is probably the sign of a change. Let's be patient and let's observe! 
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