Apollo Image Products., Various mosaics, composites and other imagery. |
Apollo Image Products., Various mosaics, composites and other imagery. |
Jul 18 2008, 01:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 3-August 05 Member No.: 453 |
Nice "time averaging" composite!
This thread reminded me that the picture some posts above of a dirty, tired but obviously very satisfied Gene Cernan is one of my favorite Apollo program images. I think it sums up the program very well. And a nice surprise that it could be mosaiced with the one of the stowed helmets and lunar garments. Airbag |
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Jul 18 2008, 09:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 21-April 05 From: Portugal Member No.: 347 |
Great processing on those Apollo 11 tv images. I'd like to see another version with the astronauts, just for scale and perspective. If they stay still for some time I guess frame averaging would reduce noise to an acceptable level.
One thing I'd like to do (although I don't know any software that would allow it) is to process the color video from latter missions restoring the original full 60fps of the camera (in black and white). This could be made by "splitting" the color data. The color data is just 20fps, because for each frame a different filter was used (so 60/3 = 20 fps). So for each normal frame of color video you can get the original 3 bw frames with full motion information. In practice this would be hard to do, but I think that the results might be very interesting. -------------------- _______________________
www.astrosurf.com/nunes |
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Jul 18 2008, 01:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 23-October 04 From: Greensboro, NC USA Member No.: 103 |
Fabulous work, Don, thanks for posting - and great timing, too, as we're in the Anniversary Week. Hard to believe it has been 39 years!
-------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Jul 20 2008, 07:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 23-October 04 From: Greensboro, NC USA Member No.: 103 |
Does anyone ever find themselves wondering if July 20 will someday be declared a world holiday, to celebrate mankind's crowning achievement of the 20th century?
-------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Jul 20 2008, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Does anyone ever find themselves wondering if July 20 will someday be declared a world holiday, to celebrate mankind's crowning achievement of the 20th century? yes I did. Nevertheless, if you read any boog in french related to 1st Moon landing, they refer to when Neil first set FOOT on the Moon which was on ...July 21st here. -------------------- |
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Jul 20 2008, 10:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 10 |
>Great processing on those Apollo 11 tv images. I'd like to see another version with the astronauts, just for scale and perspective. I provided such an image for this latest entry of my Apollo 11 annual tribute: http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/Apollo30.html Aldrin is that vertical blob next to the right leg, in the shadow. Don |
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Jul 20 2008, 10:33 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8785 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Striking (and depressing) sequence of images showing the deterioration of a lunar footprint, Don.
(Can't ever help but have mixed feelings on this day.) -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 21 2008, 07:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Heraklion, GR. Member No.: 112 |
Don, your tribute makes a sad but great reading, thanks.
QUOTE "It wasn't until the last Lunar expedition that Harrison Schmitt raised his visor deliberately in front of the camera to give history the only brief look at a human being in a spacesuit on the Moon." I had no idea about this. I googled to no result. Is this image available anywhere ? |
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Jul 21 2008, 08:10 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I think this might be it...
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lau...to/schmitt1.jpg Here's another view... http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17schmitt.face.jpg I know hindsight is always perfect, and they were rather busy up there, and it was a different age, etc etc, but I'm constantly amazed at how many historic photo opportunities were lost during the Apollo EVAs... no definitive image of Armstrong on the Moon (like the one in Alan Bean's painting)... no image of the actual "First Footprint"... just that one "visor up" shot... But yeah, NASA was less media- and Outreach-aware in those days. I imagine they'll do things VERY differently when the next missions go, and when people reach Mars. -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2008, 11:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
just that one "visor up" shot... This is may be the only "visor up" astronaut shown on the moon but I remember an enhanced product by Olivier de Goursac (Vickingmars) that clearly shows Aldrin face through the visor looking at Armstrong who was taking the picture. Unfortunately I cannot find it. Olivier, if your read this ... -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2008, 11:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Well, in fact, it's not really true that Schmitt was the first to be seen on the lunar surface with his gold visor up. There are several images of Aldrin with his visor up in the video record of the very first moonwalk, all of which occurred early in the EVA when the camera was still located on the MESA, in the LM's shadow. Armstrong collected the contingency sample on Apollo 11 with his visor up, as well -- not visible on the TV, as he was out of the camera FOV at the time, but clearly visible in the 16mm film taken of those activities.
Two LMPs, Ed Mitchell and Jim Irwin, came down the ladder with their gold visors up, and the TV record shows this clearly. And at one point, on Apollo 17, Gene Cernan had his visor up while he cleaned the TV camera lens and you get a good view of his face as he finishes the dusting job. So, between the film and video record, there are images of at least six of the twelve moonwalkers with their gold visors up and their faces visible. Just FYI... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Jul 21 2008, 12:02 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
So, between the film and video record, there are images of at least six of the twelve moonwalkers with their gold visors up and their faces visible. Thanks Doug, I wasn't aware of that. Appreciate the expert input. Looks like I have some serious Googling to do! -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2008, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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Jul 21 2008, 01:34 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Oh go on then... go and have a play around here... but be back in time for tea...
Apollo images Good calls, centsworth, but I think you're right, they were individual efforts rather than NASA Outreach. Not criticising NASA at all saying that, before anyone jumps down my throat, it was a very different time. Just gettin' a mite wistful and melancholy about images that might have been.... -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2008, 01:47 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Two LMPs, Ed Mitchell and Jim Irwin, came down the ladder with their gold visors up, and the TV record shows this clearly. Wow... glad you flagged that up... found this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBn6Vl-B2A -------------------- |
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