3D shape, cartography, and geoid of Comet 67P C-G |
3D shape, cartography, and geoid of Comet 67P C-G |
Dec 10 2014, 12:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
My intuition says that the shadow would not be sharp enough from that distance to become a significant feature in the image, but maybe the vacuum of space and direct sunlight means that shadows are always sharp in these cases... (imaging experts?). The comet was at about 3 AU from the sun during the landing, so the sun subtended about 1/6 degree. That's pretty small. But it all depends on how far the shadow was from the lander, what I'll call the distance d. The total shadow width will be the width of the lander plus the spread due to the non-zero angular size of the sun. This spread is approximately 0.003d. What is your estimate of d? For d = 100 m, this gives a shadow spread of only 30 cm, and the shadow would likely still be visible. But I agree that on a rough surface like this the only way to be sure that some dark smudge is the lander's shadow is to compare before and after OSIRIS frames. |
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Dec 10 2014, 12:32 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 10-August 12 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 6534 |
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Dec 10 2014, 01:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Stockholm Sweden Member No.: 468 |
Thank you all for all the kind comments! I hope you have fun with it. It will be obsolete as soon as we get better data so it is not cleaned to perfection or anything.
If you find artifacts and errors please mark on an image so i can fix or explain if not. |
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Dec 10 2014, 01:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
The total width of umbra + penumbra will be ~1.4 m. The penumbra annulus will have a width of 40 cm, leaving 60 cm for the width of the umbra. This is all dependent on the real distance and exact size of the lander, but it looks very likely that the shadow should be visible, at least by blink comparison.
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Dec 10 2014, 05:24 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Does anyone know if they have released each of the original OSIRIS images for the touchdown mosaic? They have not. Honestly - I'm not expecting anything from OSIRIS apart from perhaps one Philae-on-the-ground image between now and the first PSA release in >6 months time. |
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Dec 11 2014, 11:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Stockholm Sweden Member No.: 468 |
Is there a date for the first release of OSIRIS data? And the Navcam dataset, will that be released at the same time? |
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Dec 11 2014, 03:30 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Even if there were one scheduled on the PSA - I'm afraid I wouldn't trust it. It'll show up when it shows up. If I saw anything on the PSA before the middle of next year - I would be pleasantly surprised.
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Jan 24 2015, 09:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Mare Desiderii Member No.: 563 |
The recent ESA release included some sketch maps (one, two) naming regions on 67P.
To help find my way around the comet, I (very roughly) annotated Mattias' 7 Dec shape model with this information by hand. Doubtless a better job could be done with more care (I've never done anything like this before), but the released maps seem pretty approximate and don't always agree with each other. The annotated .obj can be downloaded here. [Edit: apparently the colour information -- which is the whole point -- is a non-standard extension to the .obj format, so I don't know what tools other than MeshLab will display it.] |
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Feb 3 2015, 02:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Stockholm Sweden Member No.: 468 |
SHAPEMODEL UPDATE:
Has better coverage on the "blackside". http://mattias.malmer.nu/2015/02/shapemodel-update-2/ Can't wait to see what you do with it! |
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Feb 11 2015, 10:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Stockholm Sweden Member No.: 468 |
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Feb 12 2015, 06:17 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
...stunning!!!
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Feb 12 2015, 06:56 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 20-November 14 Member No.: 7342 |
W!O!W!
<Jaw drops to floor . . . > |
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Feb 12 2015, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1083 Joined: 19-February 05 From: Close to Meudon Observatory in France Member No.: 172 |
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Feb 12 2015, 11:33 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
WOW!!! Your renders from the 3D model are so realistic that it's almost possible to confuse them with real photos. Great job.
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Feb 13 2015, 12:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Stockholm Sweden Member No.: 468 |
A little more work on the normalmap should help. I have got the pipeline working but there is more work to be done...
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